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06-07-2016, 09:06 PM
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Pathfinder
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Of even more importance (in my opinion) is the Eightfold Path. One can look the definitions up, but they're pretty much self explanatory. These should be practiced every moment of every day, and they all fit together to make a whole. They're the same for a monk or a householder, and are also the same for all lineages.
We do the best we can w/ them. Perfection is not the point, and when we lapse, don't attach to it, acknowledge the lapse, and back to the path. The Middle Way is one of no extremes one way or the other. Very simple, very powerful common sense approach that leads us from illusion and delusion to sanity.
1- Right View
2- Right Intention
3- Right Action
4- Right Speech
5- Right Livelihood
6- Right Effort
7- Right Mindfulness
8- Right Concentration
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06-07-2016, 11:28 PM
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Ascender
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I agree that the 8 fold path is just as important and in reality the 5 precepts and the 8 fold path go together like night and day.
Interestingly enough last night while doing a bit of research I came upon the 14 precepts of Thich nat han. He is actually a Vietnamese zen monk, a mahayana tradition, yet he expects his ordained and lay followers to follow the same precepts with the exception of the 3rd precept which is of course celibacy for his ordained followers and sexual misconduct for the lay followers.
Buddhism really can vary a lot from sect to sect.
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16-07-2016, 02:28 AM
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Master
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Originally Posted by Shaunc
I agree that the 8 fold path is just as important and in reality the 5 precepts and the 8 fold path go together like night and day.
Interestingly enough last night while doing a bit of research I came upon the 14 precepts of Thich nat han. He is actually a Vietnamese zen monk, a mahayana tradition, yet he expects his ordained and lay followers to follow the same precepts with the exception of the 3rd precept which is of course celibacy for his ordained followers and sexual misconduct for the lay followers.
Buddhism really can vary a lot from sect to sect.
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Yea generally the lay person is usually given the basic morality of no killing, no stealing, no lying, no sexual misconduct and no intoxicants. Precepts are added for more advanced and more serious Buddhist practitioners. I guess each tradition and different ashrams have slightly different approaches, but the fundamentals of morality (sila) are basically the same across the board. Especially those first 5 are to be observed at all times by any follower of Buddhism.
It seems to me a step in the formality was missed, such as the three jewels, and the four noble truths, before going on the the 8 noble path.
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16-07-2016, 09:36 AM
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The noble 8 fold path is divided into Sila (morality), samadhi (concentration) and panna (wisdom/insight).
By learning from others someone get mundane wisdom. With that good understanding, someone practice sila and develop samadhi. With samadhi developed by sila as foundation, a true wisdom arise from within.
Sila on 8 fold path:
3- Right Action
4- Right Speech
5- Right Livelihood
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16-07-2016, 10:21 PM
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Master
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In my view, the five precepts aid in developing a healthy mind and view on life and the other.
Such a healthy mind is also prone to liberation.
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18-07-2016, 12:11 PM
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Master
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The noble 8 fold path is divided into Sila (morality), samadhi (concentration) and panna (wisdom/insight), so just as you say.
By learning from others someone get mundane wisdom. With that good understanding, someone practice sila and develop samadhi. With samadhi developed by sila as foundation, a true wisdom arise from within.
Sila on 8 fold path:
3- Right Action
4- Right Speech
5- Right Livelihood
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Yea. Sila us usually set apart, and not one of the eight things in the eightfold path, but morality is at the base of Buddhist practice, as you say, a foundation. I can't remember the detail nowdays but there was three bases I learned once where it was sila to samadhi to panna (wisdom/insight), as you said.
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24-07-2016, 09:38 AM
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24-07-2016, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Shrek
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That is a good depiction! Makes a bit of clarity in my understanding of the 8-path.
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