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20-01-2020, 07:38 AM
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Shouldn't Christians aspire to be vegans?
Reading the first chapter of Genesis, it is made clear that mankind is to eat a vegan diet:
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Gen 1.29
Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.
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Later, (after "the fall") animals are on the menu and God seems to welcome, even to favour, this change:
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Gen 4.3-5
In the course of time Cain brought some of the fruits of the soil as an offering to the Lord. And Abel also brought an offering—fat portions from some of the firstborn of his flock. The Lord looked with favour on Abel and his offering, but on Cain and his offering he did not look with favour. So Cain was very angry, and his face was downcast
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Gen 8.20
Then Noah built an altar to the Lord and, taking some of all the clean animals and clean birds, he sacrificed burnt offerings on it.
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I understand that mankind has "fallen" and now behaves in a way that is contrary to what God intended, but:
Why does God welcome this?
Why do Christians not try to live as originally intended (i.e. vegan)?
Can anybody explain?
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20-01-2020, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Floater
Reading the first chapter of Genesis, it is made clear that mankind is to eat a vegan diet:
Later, (after "the fall") animals are on the menu and God seems to welcome, even to favour, this change:
I understand that mankind has "fallen" and now behaves in a way that is contrary to what God intended, but:
Why does God welcome this?
Why do Christians not try to live as originally intended (i.e. vegan)?
Can anybody explain?
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Thankfully we don't follow all the violence/sacrifices/rape/pillage/slavery etc: found in the Bible, all done supposedly in the name of God .
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20-01-2020, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by sky123
Thankfully we don't follow all the violence/sacrifices/rape/pillage/slavery etc: found in the Bible, all done supposedly in the name of God .
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Thankfully not!
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20-01-2020, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Floater
Thankfully not!
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Becoming Vegan is a personal choice inspired by your conscience I think. If you take the Bible literally you wouldn't be able to follow your own conscience as you are following the thoughts of others.
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20-01-2020, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by sky123
Becoming Vegan is a personal choice inspired by your conscience I think. If you take the Bible literally you wouldn't be able to follow your own conscience as you are following the thoughts of others.
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I agree. I don't take the Bible literally (in fact, I personally view it as ancient myth, similar to the Greek/Norse etc).
I'm just wondering, for those Christians who want to be "ideal" (i.e. as mankind before "the fall"), shouldn't we refrain from eating animal products?
Disclaimer - I am neither Christian nor vegan (though I am vegetarian). Just interested in finding out more on all religions.
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20-01-2020, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Floater
I agree. I don't take the Bible literally (in fact, I personally view it as ancient myth, similar to the Greek/Norse etc).
I'm just wondering, for those Christians who want to be "ideal" (i.e. as mankind before "the fall"), shouldn't we refrain from eating animal products?
Disclaimer - I am neither Christian nor vegan (though I am vegetarian). Just interested in finding out more on all religions.
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I don't believe in a ' Fall ' so I can't comment, some others might help you with that :smile
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20-01-2020, 01:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Floater
I understand that mankind has "fallen" and now behaves in a way that is contrary to what God intended, but:
Why does God welcome this?
Why do Christians not try to live as originally intended (i.e. vegan)?
Can anybody explain?
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God doesn't welcome the fall but he does acknowledge its existence. Perhaps one result of the fall is that our nutritional needs are now different and we need meat to maintain our health. He did give a new command regarding food after the Flood. Genesis 9:4,5 says, "But you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood. And for your lifeblood I will require a reckoning: from every beast I will require it and from man. From his fellow man I will require a reckoning for the life of man."
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20-01-2020, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Floater
Reading the first chapter of Genesis, it is made clear that mankind is to eat a vegan diet:
Later, (after "the fall") animals are on the menu and God seems to welcome, even to favour, this change:
I understand that mankind has "fallen" and now behaves in a way that is contrary to what God intended, but:
Why does God welcome this?
Why do Christians not try to live as originally intended (i.e. vegan)?
Can anybody explain?
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I believe that Jesus said it is what comes out of your mouth that defiles you, not what you put into it. Mark 7:18-22
Anyway, as I understand it vegans don't eat fish either, and Jesus is known to have fed people a lot of fish.
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20-01-2020, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Floater
Reading the first chapter of Genesis, it is made clear that mankind is to eat a vegan diet:
Later, (after "the fall") animals are on the menu and God seems to welcome, even to favour, this change:
I understand that mankind has "fallen" and now behaves in a way that is contrary to what God intended, but:
Why does God welcome this?
Why do Christians not try to live as originally intended (i.e. vegan)?
Can anybody explain?
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Welcome to the forums.
First they would have to find the Garden.
Then strip off all clothes.
Climb out of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and evil.
Climb The Tree of Life.
Have you judged all Christians?
Since you believe Genesis is myth why would you concern yourself with what Christ followers do or don't do with a myth?
I can tell you many more myths you can judge.
Do you wonder why they don't run around naked also?
Do you ask the Eskimo why they still eat meat?
How about the Tribal Africans,Japanese,Chinese,etc,etc,etc?
Or even ask at your nearest bar or pub?
I think you are just trying to shame a group of peoples.
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20-01-2020, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ImthatIm
Welcome to the forums.
First they would have to find the Garden.
Then strip off all clothes.
Climb out of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and evil.
Climb The Tree of Life.
Have you judged all Christians?
Since you believe Genesis is myth why would you concern yourself with what Christ followers do or don't do with a myth?
I can tell you many more myths you can judge.
Do you wonder why they don't run around naked also?
Do you ask the Eskimo why they still eat meat?
How about the Tribal Africans,Japanese,Chinese,etc,etc,etc?
Or even ask at your nearest bar or pub?
I think you are just trying to shame a group of peoples.
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Oh dear, have you got your Pants in a twist today. I don't think Floater is judging anyone, but is rather curious
Stripping your clothes off while sitting in a tree would be rather dangerous don't you think
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