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Old 23-10-2010, 07:53 AM
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Hello. I'm an enlightened person.

Hey guys

My name is Ciaran Healy, and I'm an enlightened person. I hit enlightenment on July 13th of this year. I didn't take it in the normal direction.

When I was very young, I noticed that there were patterns inside what I suppose you might refer to as human evil. Goodness was pretty simple, but evil seemed to me this unholy mess of rationalisations and self-woven lies.

What was also clear was that these lies all had a common structure. That structure could be filled with anything, but recurred exact and complete regardless of content or scale.

It totally captivated me, and set me on a path that was to lead to my own enlightenment.

I didn't expect that I would ever make it, but I also felt very deeply that what I wanted to gain from it was not the peace of the Buddha, but also a clear understanding of the core mechanism of transmission. Basically I wanted to understand the central mechanism of opening up the enlightened state for the first time to such a degree that I would be able to communicate it in a completely new and more effective way.

When I hit enlightenment, I was very wary of becoming something I'd always feared the enlightened state would entail becoming - a recreational Buddha. I felt it was important that I did not lose my focus on the mass communication of the actual enlightened state.

Enlightenment is much more like freedom than it is like peace. Once you deepen it, it absolutely does dissolve the rage and pain that are a part of the human condition, but in the brief period after the initial awakening, although the central lynchpin of human delusion has been removed, the actual architecture of that delusion lingers for a while.

I had been so focused on gaining enlightenment at the expense of all other concern in my life - including morality - that the architecture I had was actually pretty toxic.

This resulted in a very interesting and unexpected thing - I lost my temper. As an enlightened person. I was only just over the threshold of the state, and remember - enlightenment is freedom, so you are free to do what you want, and if you don't want peace you are not bound by fate and destiny to be peaceful.

A good way to think of it is in terms of Yin and Yang.

Most enlightened move toward the Yin, toward the peace of being.

I didn't do this. I'll be honest, I was very wary of doing so. My issue was not that it is intrinsically bad, but that the world is in too dangerous and precarious a position for another enlightened person to just disappear up a mountainside.

I could be wrong, but I think the reason we don't see many 'Yang' enlightened throughout history is that going 'Yang' as an enlightened is a very intense thing to do.

It's just as intense as the peace felt by those who go toward the 'Yin' of being.

I hope I'm making sense. I realise this is pretty abstract. I'm happy to explain myself in full - whatever you guys need.

To cut a long story short I kicked off in an online conversation with two men who were academic philosophers, and specialists in logic.

I'd just blown a major piece of western philosophy wide open, and was pleased with myself in a manner totally unbecoming of a jnani.

I posted it up and got two very aloof and dismissive responses.

I just tore into them. It wasn't pretty. But being enlightened I was able to retain total focus with that fury, and filled my anger with the truth I had seen and the close understanding I had of the core mechanism of awakening.

I did not expect them to awaken. But they did.

These were not prepared men. They did not have years of meditation under their belt and as far as I can tell looked on the work of Eckhart Tolle with total contempt (I do not share this contempt).

I checked. I probed. I asked them many questions and prodded them intellectually in many ways. It was true. They were awake.

This to me was stunning. I'd worked for enlightenment, over many long years and many brutal pitfalls - but the transmission of enlightenment was something I really stumbled upon by accident.

It took me about a month to burn out the rage completely. It really did me some damage - not psychologically as I am enlightened, but it took a serious toll on my body.

It was very dark, a very dark thing to do, but I felt it was my duty to discover what it was that was getting the actual liberated state across.

I've made some headway. I've personally confirmed 28 enlightened people that I have directly cracked out in the last 3 and a bit months. More exciting to me than this is the fact that 12 of those people have enlightened one or more people themselves.

We've started quite a club. There's something like 40 of us.

I don't have the mechanism totally nailed down yet. I know it's something like the fusion of Yin and Yang - the force and power of Yang, but stripped completely of Yang's damaging potential.

The purity and compassion of Yin, but enlivened and made active by the Yang principle.

I've been having some serious success - and let me tell you, it's a lot more user-friendly.

It's all very exciting.

Anyway, I think it's high time I brought this whole situation to the attention of a serious spirituality forum, which is why I'm here.

I'm not a magic person. I can't free everyone.

But it does seem obvious to me now that what I have done, in fusing the hard-headedness of the West with the deep truths of the East has opened up a gateway which I honestly think it's fair to say, isn't mind-breakingly hard to walk through.

So, that's me.

Yeah.
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Old 23-10-2010, 09:28 AM
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Very interesting introduction CiaranRT. Welcome to SF, i am sure you will find many enlightened beings here.
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Old 23-10-2010, 09:49 AM
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Hi CiaranRT, welcome, yea my Enlightenment is just simple, just to be who I truly am, nothing more or nothing less.
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Old 23-10-2010, 04:48 PM
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Very interesting introduction CiaranRT. Welcome to SF, i am sure you will find many enlightened beings here.

I hope so. If not... well, I'll see if I can help with that.

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Hi CiaranRT, welcome, yea my Enlightenment is just simple, just to be who I truly am, nothing more or nothing less.

I think that the process that buddhists refer to as enlightenment (and Hindus as Mokhsa, and Taoists as becoming one with the Tao and Sufis as Fanaa) is actually something else.

It's something quite specific. It has lots of flowery names, but when you really drill down (and that took me quite a few years) there is a specific psychological process that they are talking about.

It isn't magic, it isn't rocket science, it's not vague at all - in any way - and it has no alternate interpretation. There is a core.

They call it, in Buddhism, the delusion of self.

This is quite a grand way of putting it. I think too grand.

It's less of a delusion. It's more like an assumption.

We assume that the experience of life we are having is being 'lived' by someone. Us.

It's not. The experience of life we are having is the totality of all that is nad has no source in any conventional sense.

It is the present moment - it is uncaused in the same way as one piece of water in the flow of a river has no cause. It's not magic, but to say that there is a 'thing' pushing it on is to ignore that it's just part of the flow.

This present moment of existence, this flow of life - there is no self standing outside it experiencing it.

There is no self in any sense.

One of the main ways a person can get lost is to confuse 'no you' with 'I am the flow'.

This is quite a distraction. The truth is, there is no you in any sense. There's just the flow. Just the flow of life.

That's it. There's no you.

Enlightenment is simply the recognition that this is not just an idea. It is the actual case.

For that, you need to sit down and seriously look at it - but the path to enlightenment only takes as long as it takes to see this, and no longer.

Once attained - yes, it can (and should and will) be deepened.

It is not the end of a journey. It is the first step - BUT - the first step cannot be anything else than this: the simple recognition that there is no you.

You can't believe it - that doesn't do anything.

You can't 'work it out in your head' - that doesn't work either.

These things are fine though - don't feel you need to burn either out. You just need to step beyond them, and start asking real questions about real life and really looking for real answers.

That's the step beyond 'understanding' and 'belief'. Start engaging very deeply (well, as deeply as you can) with reality.

So yeah, I was going to respond to everyone on this thread, but I think I've covered most of the things you've brought up.

You should have enough to chew on for now.

I've put a link in my signature to a big piece (it is really long, so be warned) that goes into a lot of detail about who I am (so to speak) and what the path I've taken to get here is. Don't feel you have to soldier through it if you don't want to.

Much love.
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Old 23-10-2010, 09:18 PM
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I hope so. If not... well, I'll see if I can help with that.



I think that the process that buddhists refer to as enlightenment (and Hindus as Mokhsa, and Taoists as becoming one with the Tao and Sufis as Fanaa) is actually something else.

It's something quite specific. It has lots of flowery names, but when you really drill down (and that took me quite a few years) there is a specific psychological process that they are talking about.

It isn't magic, it isn't rocket science, it's not vague at all - in any way - and it has no alternate interpretation. There is a core.

They call it, in Buddhism, the delusion of self.

This is quite a grand way of putting it. I think too grand.

It's less of a delusion. It's more like an assumption.

We assume that the experience of life we are having is being 'lived' by someone. Us.

It's not. The experience of life we are having is the totality of all that is nad has no source in any conventional sense.

It is the present moment - it is uncaused in the same way as one piece of water in the flow of a river has no cause. It's not magic, but to say that there is a 'thing' pushing it on is to ignore that it's just part of the flow.

This present moment of existence, this flow of life - there is no self standing outside it experiencing it.

There is no self in any sense.

One of the main ways a person can get lost is to confuse 'no you' with 'I am the flow'.

This is quite a distraction. The truth is, there is no you in any sense. There's just the flow. Just the flow of life.

That's it. There's no you.

Enlightenment is simply the recognition that this is not just an idea. It is the actual case.

For that, you need to sit down and seriously look at it - but the path to enlightenment only takes as long as it takes to see this, and no longer.

Once attained - yes, it can (and should and will) be deepened.

It is not the end of a journey. It is the first step - BUT - the first step cannot be anything else than this: the simple recognition that there is no you.

You can't believe it - that doesn't do anything.

You can't 'work it out in your head' - that doesn't work either.

These things are fine though - don't feel you need to burn either out. You just need to step beyond them, and start asking real questions about real life and really looking for real answers.

That's the step beyond 'understanding' and 'belief'. Start engaging very deeply (well, as deeply as you can) with reality.

So yeah, I was going to respond to everyone on this thread, but I think I've covered most of the things you've brought up.

You should have enough to chew on for now.

I've put a link in my signature to a big piece (it is really long, so be warned) that goes into a lot of detail about who I am (so to speak) and what the path I've taken to get here is. Don't feel you have to soldier through it if you don't want to.

Much love.
Yes thanks for all that CiaranRT, but as I said for me it was simple, it is who I AM, no need to go further, to go further will only take me away from what IS.
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Old 23-10-2010, 11:42 PM
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Yes thanks for all that CiaranRT, but as I said for me it was simple, it is who I AM, no need to go further, to go further will only take me away from what IS.

Well look - the point of seeing through the 'delusion of self' and thus becoming enlightened is not to remove anything.

The point is, there was never anything there to begin with. There was never a you. Ever. There's nothing to defend, and nothing to attack. That's the whole point.
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Old 23-10-2010, 10:06 AM
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I shall look forward to reading as to how your "enlightenment" manifests itself through your words and relation of your deeds in the physical.
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Old 23-10-2010, 10:25 AM
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I dont regard Enlightenment as a destination, but as a journey. Surely, it's is more realistic to say that we are on a Path to Enlightenment, not Enlightened.

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Old 23-10-2010, 10:40 AM
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I dont regard Enlightenment as a destination, but as a journey. Surely, it's is more realistic to say that we are on a Path to Enlightenment, not Enlightened.

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Well whats the use of having a path if there is no destination ?, its either you want to stay on the path or be at the destination.
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Old 23-10-2010, 11:07 AM
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Well whats the use of having a path if there is no destination ?, its either you want to stay on the path or be at the destination.

Think of it as a moving target. The Journey, The Way, The Tao !
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