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21-08-2019, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jojo50
true! we are responsible for our wicked actions. this is why if we don't change from our wicked ways ,(Psa. 97:10 Ye that love the LORD, hate evil, he preserve the souls of his saints, he deliverer them out of the hand of the wicked). see also (Ezek. 33:11 Say to them: ‘As I live,’ says the Lord God, ‘I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live. Turn, turn from your evil ways! For why should you die, O house of Israel?').
those he was speaking at that time was his chosen people. but it applies to us today as well. he by means of Jesus will do away with any of us who refuse to change, just like in Noah's day ,(Luke 17:26,27 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all).
humans been on earth for about 200,000 years. how long do we have to wait before WE!.. get it right? maybe we need some "magic trick" to help get us started! we're imperfect sinful, selfish humans. we own our could NEVER get it right! do you think we get up every morning because we can? NO, we get up because Jehovah God keep his breath of life in us ,(Acts 17:25 Nor is He worshiped with men’s hands, as though He needed anything, since He gives to all life, breath, and all things).
I'm so thankful that Jehovah God hasn't made a move yet. because I'm still working on myself, he's giving us ALL a chance to do so. since he really don't want to destroy ANYONE ,(2Pet. 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us. not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance). instead of wanted to rush the End. we better feel bless to be given some time. peace
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Well as I don't believe your ponderings above, we can agree to differ.
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21-08-2019, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jojo50
man could NEVER undo the mess we caused. also it was a wicked spirit who put in man's heart to make this world the way it is. after all he caused the first couple to sin against the God of Israel. by means of a serpent using a lie, (Gen.3:1-4)
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Who created the serpent?
Was it not the first born of creation?
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21-08-2019, 10:12 PM
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Jesus did, God's first born.
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22-08-2019, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by BigJohn
Who created the serpent?
Was it not the first born of creation?
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The serpent is Lucifer, later known as Satan.
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22-08-2019, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ThatMan
The serpent is Lucifer, later known as Satan.
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Are you saying there were 2 separate creations?
Or was there only one creation?
Was it not the first born, Jesus, who created everything but himself?
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22-08-2019, 02:32 PM
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If Jesus lived among us I can imagine him suddenly losing it and going on an armed rampage, shooting as many ''sinners'' as possible.
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22-08-2019, 03:58 PM
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Well as I don't believe your ponderings above, we can agree to differ.
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you call it "ponding", I show Jehovah God's words, I see you must believe it's you who causes yourself to breath each day. if that be the case, than you know and possess something NO other human has. if so, then maybe you can lead the human race into making this world a better place. since you seem to believe we can. and yes I do agree, we can agree to disagree. peace
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22-08-2019, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by BigJohn
Who created the serpent? Was it not the first born of creation?
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yes Jesus did created the serpent, but Jesus was the "first born of all creations ,( Col. 1:15,16 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him).
but again, it was satan by means of trickery, in which Jehovah warns us against, ( Ephe. 6:11 Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil), who cowardly spoke through the serpent. it wasn't the snake who actually spoke. peace
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22-08-2019, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SlayerOfLight
If Jesus lived among us I can imagine him suddenly losing it and going on an armed rampage, shooting as many ''sinners'' as possible.
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if Jesus were here today, he would have been as he were in his time. a man of NO violence. and he would be trying to teach people the same way he did in his time. also it's not like there weren't evil, wicked and unholy people in his time. peace
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22-08-2019, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jojo50
you call it "ponding", I show Jehovah God's words, I see you must believe it's you who causes yourself to breath each day. if that be the case, than you know and possess something NO other human has. if so, then maybe you can lead the human race into making this world a better place. since you seem to believe we can. and yes I do agree, we can agree to disagree. peace
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What you show me is words written by many different people over decades which others like you and me decide to name bibles.
I breathe in and out because of ' Cause and effect....
The Human Race most definitely can make the world a better place, every individual has this ability. We shouldn't be sitting around reading Scriptures and waiting for some Magician to come and do it for us....
Peace
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