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25-03-2016, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Burntfruit
I don't believe any life form would wish to live such as a life as portrayed in factory farms.
I can't understand it.
I guess humans are 'higher souls' but we still have a responsibility.
We are in the age of transition.
In the future things will change.
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My grandfather (Polish) was a prisoner in Auschwitz during the war, which in many ways is comparable to the chicken in the factory farm.
He said that it was the happiest time of his life.
Now, that may say more about living with my Grandma than it does about the prison camp, but despite the terrible conditions he was able to gain something good from it.
So, chickens may well be experiencing good things despite their outwardly dreadful situation.
Another poster stated about chickens possibly understanding that they are giving their life for the needs of others, which I can understand. There was a news story of a young boy, a child genius, gifted in many ways. He ended up committing suicide (at 14yrs old I think), the theory is that due to being affected by the plight of those in need, he wanted to die in order to allows others to live (through organ donation).
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27-03-2016, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TroyMartin
Animals don't have souls.
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Soul is energy and everything, including stones have it. We all are in this together, we are swimming in infinite ocean of energy or we all are that energy.
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27-03-2016, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by UncleManifestor
. There was a news story of a young boy, a child genius, gifted in many ways. He ended up committing suicide (at 14yrs old I think), the theory is that due to being affected by the plight of those in need, he wanted to die in order to allows others to live (through organ donation).
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I have to say, that reading this made me sick in my stomach.
It is a clear example of how far people can go with a belief, that we are powerless. Everybody has amazing power inside (those in need also, no exceptions)that can move mountains and yet we try to solve our and other's problems with trivial actions instead of doing that really works - changing subconscious beliefs and plugging into our power and inspiring others to do the same.
Healing comes from within, it doesn't come through sacrifice of any sort. When we win, we all win. People who need their organs renewed, would renew them by plugging in into powerful energy inside of them. Wouldn't it be great, if gifted children would do it themselves and inspire others to do it too?
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27-03-2016, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by joyfirst
I have to say, that reading this made me sick in my stomach.
It is a clear example of how far people can go with a belief, that we are powerless. Everybody has amazing power inside (those in need also, no exceptions)that can move mountains and yet we try to solve our and other's problems with trivial actions instead of doing that really works - changing subconscious beliefs and plugging into our power and inspiring others to do the same.
Healing comes from within, it doesn't come through sacrifice of any sort. When we win, we all win. People who need their organs renewed, would renew them by plugging in into powerful energy inside of them. Wouldn't it be great, if gifted children would do it themselves and inspire others to do it too?
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Yes, it was heartbreaking to read about his story. I totally agree with you about the power from within and needing to educate others about it rather than needing to provide a sacrifice for them.
I do believe that things are slowly changing with regard to spirituality, with all the information at our fingertips it is becoming more accessible, allowing us to break free from the shackles created by men with an interest in keeping us in the dark. obviously you can't force anyone to embrace (and tap into) the abundant energy of source, but yeah, as you say, the best way is to teach by example, to show them how awesome things can be.
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27-03-2016, 09:58 PM
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There is a book that answers many questions for those people
that wonder about these things:
An Ascension Handbook ...channeled by Tony Stubbs.
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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28-03-2016, 06:52 PM
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I think it's easy to project our own limited human experience of suffering onto what a SOUL may experience or choose to experience. Perhaps the ETERNAL SOUL perceives suffering differently? I'll try to work up a crude analogy so please bear with me:
Imagine the Eternal Chicken Soul to be like a person who wants to get fit and strong and goes to the gym. Let's pretend that going to the gym for the Chicken Soul is like being incarnated on Earth. And the Chicken Soul does all it's cardio, and TRX, and Crossfits etc. etc. and learn from different experiences by different exercises (soul lessons). So working out can be viewed as suffering (from a smaller perspective), but to the SOUL it's a path to wholeness, strength, and growth. :)
Another example I want to make is this. For me personally, this lifetime has been filled with overwhelming and painful challenges. My personality and ego doesn't understand why... but as I begin to unravel the SOUL within me and to operate more as the SOUL as oppose to the ego personality, I understand that I, (as the SOUL) has chosen these lessons specifically and had designed them specifically to optimize the highest good and the highest growth, not only for my personal journey, but for the Journey of ALL That Is. And once I had awaken to this, I no longer need to suffer. And I imagine that's what all of us are doing here. :)
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28-03-2016, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by UncleManifestor
Yes, it was heartbreaking to read about his story. I totally agree with you about the power from within and needing to educate others about it rather than needing to provide a sacrifice for them.
I do believe that things are slowly changing with regard to spirituality, with all the information at our fingertips it is becoming more accessible, allowing us to break free from the shackles created by men with an interest in keeping us in the dark. obviously you can't force anyone to embrace (and tap into) the abundant energy of source, but yeah, as you say, the best way is to teach by example, to show them how awesome things can be.
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Well, I did some EFT/EMDR on it and my stomach feels good again.
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28-03-2016, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Imzadi
... but as I begin... to operate more as the SOUL
as oppose to the ego personality,
I understand that I, (as the SOUL) have chosen these lessons specifically and have
designed them specifically to optimize the highest good and the highest growth,
not only for my personal journey, but for the Journey of ALL That Is.
And once I had awaken to this,
I no longer need to suffer.
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Well, aren't you the wise one!!!
Meher Baba: "...the Lover knows... that all the impossible situations that
he overcame were obstacles which he himself had placed in the path to himself."
I honor that in you that got this!
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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30-03-2016, 06:08 AM
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poor chickadees :(
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30-03-2016, 12:43 PM
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Why does a soul incarnate as a chicken? maybe it wants to serve humanity... what an absolutely beautiful soul... incarnating as a chicken just so it can become someones meal, God bless all chickens and animals who incarnate and give there lives for those who wish to eat them.
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