Neurotic tendencies and biotic inclinations: is there ever freedom?

[Dawn_is_a_play]

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We never allow the unknown in its entirety!


We chatter, (express ourselves with sound & movement)from the moment we wake up to the moment we go to sleep. Even whilst we sleep that chatter comes out alive in an extraordinary form. This we call dreams(A sort of maniacal romanticism of the mundane). We forcibly give purpose, meaning to this nightly chatter, just like we engage ourselves with the dreams and aspirations of the day! We share experiences local and non local. We describe our experiences to be crude, sentient and even sublime.

We chatter about the physical, the man and the woman, the young and the old, the slim and the fat, the short and the tall, the human and the animal, the animate and the inanimate, day and the night and all in-between.

We chatter about the non-physical, lower dimensions and higher realms, the spirit and the soul, Gods and demons, consciousness and unconsciousness.

Nowadays, we chatter of supreme consciousness and supreme-collective consciousness and so on… We seem to add in more and more and keep on nourishing our delusions.

Our chatters never seem to end, they either grow reverse to a time immemorial or tumour into a timeless future.

We doddle in the caves, sing operas on stage, dance around and establish theatres, hoist flags and flaunt names, build governments, erect monuments, go up in space and look under the oceans!

We meditate, do yoga, isolate ourselves in monasteries, worship in temples, mosques and churches, do rituals in the forests, play with magic and alchemy, research stem cells, break into atoms, invent technology and bring in robots!

However narrow or wide the sequence, brief or long the translations, mild or intense our feelings, our chatters are limited to a certain boundary!

Our dualities remain the same, our fragmentation of the same roots , our dreams, our imaginations of the same quality, our neurotic tendencies and biotic inclinations remain fixed, our games and plays of the same tether; no matter how contracted and expanded, descended and ascended we think and experience ourselves to be.

Isn’t this still the chatter of a million yesterdays, projecting a million tomorrows; of fanciful ideas and fictitious rhythms! Isn’t it still the womb of dead things? Isn't it the mother of all confusion?

Is it so, in order to reinforce our presence and establish the validity of our existence? One moment we are certain and uncertainty follows the next! Aren't we confused with our own existence?!

Why should we chatter about WHO WE ARE?

We never seem to be exhausted in the pursuit of achieving “the ultimate, the infinite, God, supreme consciousness or whatever that is more than what is”!!! We are never tired of this expansion in time.

We believe God created us and find meaning by striving to reach heaven! We believe space or infinite consciousness has projected us but we find safety in expanding our time bound experiences. We believe in words, it's multiplicity of forms and hold on to language yet credit ourselves with seeking that which is true!


Can time expand and become TIMELESS? Can knowledge accumulate itself to reach COMPLETION? Can experience be of the INFINITE?

When the chatters of the physical and spiritual, natural and supernatural, scientific and religious, consciousness and supreme consciousness etc end...

What is...?

As you speak for yourself....
So mote it be.

Do I scent a glove puppet?

[Dawn_is_a_play]

Originally Posted by Lorelyen

As you speak for yourself....
So mote it be.

One is under the dominion of occult! The archtype of occultism is to maintain secrecy.


The English word secret comes from the Latin word secernere which means to separate.

One is driven to separate, by concealing the truth! When one is being controlled over by a master can never be free from bondage.

One must have an extraordinary quality of endurance(earth) to affliction and exercise free- will(furnace of fire) in order to come out free(as gold)!

Isaiah 48:10
Behold, I have refined you, but not as silver; I have tried you in the furnace of affliction.


Isaiah 1:25
I will turn my hand against you and will smelt away your dross as with lye and remove all your alloy.

[Altair]

Originally Posted by Dawn_is_a_play

We chatter about the physical, the man and the woman, the young and the old, the slim and the fat, the short and the tall, the human and the animal, the animate and the inanimate, day and the night and all in-between.

We chatter about the non-physical, lower dimensions and higher realms, the spirit and the soul, Gods and demons, consciousness and unconsciousness.

Nowadays, we chatter of supreme consciousness and supreme-collective consciousness and so on… We seem to add in more and more and keep on nourishing our delusions.

'Nowadays' indeed! The popular spiritual beliefs discussed today reflect the stage of 'civilization'. First it was spirits of nature, than human-animal gods, than human gods, and now spirituality has become a reflection of human psychological states of being. The Christian/Jewish faith you refer to is mostly a stage 3 religious belief!

[Dawn_is_a_play]

Originally Posted by Altair

'Nowadays' indeed! The popular spiritual beliefs discussed today reflect the stage of 'civilization'. First it was spirits of nature, than human-animal gods, than human gods, and now spirituality has become a reflection of human psychological states of being. The Christian/Jewish faith you refer to is mostly a stage 3 religious belief!

Thanks for sharing thoughts on spiritual beliefs.

It does not matter the stages in the belief system. Any occupation with belief keeps one in bondage. It is an artificial scheme to escape the actuality of fear. Holding on to mental translations, working within the known, the familiar.
One becomes ill-nourished due to the repetitive nature of the system. It causes dullness of the mind and body. It is not wise to have stale/old nourishments. One must be able to venture free, beyond the known and be of that which is fresh/new.

The Bible verses referenced are only pointers.

[Dawn_is_a_play]

Originally Posted by Altair

you refer to

One is stuck in the fantasy of separation.

For example: one believes that one is separate from another. This is the most saddest of all believes, because it is the root of all beliefs. Without this belief, all the other beliefs won't be hanging around in shame.

[Altair]

Originally Posted by Dawn_is_a_play

One is stuck in the fantasy of separation.

For example: one believes that one is separate from another. This is the most saddest of all believes, because it is the root of all beliefs. Without this belief, all the other beliefs won't be hanging around in shame.

Non-separation is the fantasy.

[Dawn_is_a_play]

Originally Posted by Altair

Non-separation is the fantasy.

Now, one belives non-separation is the fantasy. It is still a fantastic belief! One must be thirsty for the actual not fantasies.

Who is the one, who says "non separation is the fantasy"?

[Ordnael]

Originally Posted by Altair

'Nowadays' indeed! The popular spiritual beliefs discussed today reflect the stage of 'civilization'. First it was spirits of nature, than human-animal gods, than human gods, and now spirituality has become a reflection of human psychological states of being. The Christian/Jewish faith you refer to is mostly a stage 3 religious belief!

And we must keep in mind that their wisdom and faith that scholars today conceitedly call 'beliefs' served them well for thousands of years. Wonder how much longer the secularism of our modern society will keep the world from plunging into the primordial Chaos.