Exploring space and time

[Baile]

Originally Posted by Starman

All labels are mental constructs, they only exist in our head. As John Lennon sang in his song “Imagine

He wrote "Imagine no possessions" when his net worth was in the tens if not hundreds of millions. It's healthy to stay grounded in reality, and labels help keep us from floating off to Lucy in the sky with diamonds.

[Goldcup7]

Nicely put, Starman.

[Starman]

Baile, with all due respect, I strive to be grounded in spirit and not in Earth. Regardless of John Lennon’s material wealth his message rang true with me. Ram Dass was a PhD Harvard College Professor, strong intellectual pursuits, and he was fired from his job and then became transformed into Ram Dass. But I do not judge him nor do I judge John Lennon.

The Christian Bible says “Know that while you are in this world you are not of this world.” Staying grounded in this world will not help to bring about the Age of Aquarius. I prefer being grounded in my true Self, my spiritual being. Me, having worked in the healthcare field for more than 40-years have experienced that being grounded in spiritual essence gives me more health than being grounded in this world.

It is my experience that reality is but a matter of perception. Although I do attempt to respect where other people are coming from, even if different from where I am coming from. Duality runs rampart in this physical world, I choose not to be grounded in that.

Peace and Good Journey To You`

[Goldcup7]

Thanks for the interesting conversations here. It's difficult to ignore the 'Imagine' song. I see it as we don't need to "imagine no possessions," because possession is imaginary. I don't truly own my cat or my car. I look after them. Well, it seems like the cat owns me sometimes....

But it's true that currently in this stage of human evolution we have a system of ownership and laws and agreements that defend that. That needs to be respected of course, if we are to avoid war and chaos right now.

But the song looks to a future where the world changes, and for me that is the path for humanity. I feel the Age of Aquarius is the start of this letting go of limits, leading to more openness, a way of oneness, sharing and being at peace with all as one.

[Starman]

Goldcup7, for me it is a choice between the timeless oneness of the eternal moment in non-duality and the fragmented polarity of chasing time in duality. Although I do use labels and refer to time as a reference but they are not concrete things to me. I strive to see the light in all people and things, and I am still a work in process. Nonetheless, I do give myself permission to make mistakes as long as those mistakes are not irreparable.

Ownership, in my opinion, is about control. To own another person, even to say my spouse, lover, or cat, and mean they that they belong to me, is to infer that they are my property. There are cultures in this world who could not understand how a person could own land; the early Native Americans had this perspective, as did other native peoples. There is a Buddhist saying (koan) “own no possessions that none may own you.”

What we own owns us; we invest time, energy, and resources, in what we own. I do have a house and a car but I am not attached to them, as I know everything is in transition, including myself. Attachment to time, space, or material possessions is the culprit. It is one thing to have possessions and another thing to be attached to those possessions; in my opinion. While I do take care of my physical body I know one day I must let go of it.

For that too I do not own.

[Goldcup7]

Excellent, Starman. Need the prayer hands emoji here, but this will do -