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Old 27-12-2010, 07:51 AM
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When I was little I called God a he because thats what I was taught. When I was about 20, I learned of the Goddess and from then on God was She. I'm now 51 and "God" is an energy field more than anything, but when I am visualizing God I see God as female.

There have been temples to the Goddess. Some churches sit on sites that formerly were places where she was worshiped. God is a he because the most vocal religions are all male centered and into converting people to their religion (convert or die was pretty popular). They wipe out any evidence of other type of worship or beliefs. Brute force explains a lot of why God is male. Another reason is it was also easier to control women by claiming God was male. Men have always been rather threatened by women.
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Old 27-12-2010, 08:34 AM
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When I was little I called God a he because thats what I was taught. When I was about 20, I learned of the Goddess and from then on God was She. I'm now 51 and "God" is an energy field more than anything, but when I am visualizing God I see God as female.

There have been temples to the Goddess. Some churches sit on sites that formerly were places where she was worshiped. God is a he because the most vocal religions are all male centered and into converting people to their religion (convert or die was pretty popular). They wipe out any evidence of other type of worship or beliefs. Brute force explains a lot of why God is male. Another reason is it was also easier to control women by claiming God was male. Men have always been rather threatened by women.


The god of the cannibals will be a cannibal, of the crusaders a crusader, and of the merchants a merchant.

~Ralph Waldo Emerson~
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Old 27-12-2010, 09:18 AM
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What if God was labeled a woman, would this thread be reversed in its questioning ?.
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Old 27-12-2010, 09:22 AM
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What if God was labeled a woman, would this thread be reversed in its questioning ?.

No friend. God is indifferent to all these manmade genders
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Old 27-12-2010, 09:37 AM
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No friend. God is indifferent to all these manmade genders
Of course i know that but I'm asking the question to those who don't think as you and I do.lol
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Old 27-12-2010, 09:50 AM
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Could you define masculinity? Our ideas of what is masculine and what is feminine is borrowed from cultural values and beliefs.

And why is the history of mankind ''masculine''?
No, sweetheart, if we go to this level of communication, it becomes mere semantics and hair splitting, and takes much more energy than it gives back.
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Old 27-12-2010, 09:56 AM
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No, sweetheart, if we go to this level of communication, it becomes mere semantics and hair splitting, and takes much more energy than it gives back.
Have a beautiful day!
But semantics is important, because how else can we understand one another on a forum? Many words have various meanings.

Ideas about masculinity and femininity are deeply ingrained in culture, which is why it's tricky to make universal statements about it.
So I would like to know what ''masculinity'' and ''femininity'' are, and how human history was ''masculine'' by its ''energy''..
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Old 27-12-2010, 10:06 AM
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So I would like to know what ''masculinity'' and ''femininity'' are, ..

It is so simple and even a child can explain.

We at times love to complicate the simple thing, making a mountain out of a mole.

Everything in nature is simple and ewe rationalize, philosophize and spiritualize simple natural phenomena and everyday reality.

We love complexity,ambiguity and express our thoughts in very complex English and that is our nature
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Old 27-12-2010, 10:19 AM
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Chrysaetos, for me it is more important that we love and respect each other. Masculine/feminine, simplified to the core, is the yin/yang concept that we each carry within. For me, outer creation with all its manifestations, wars included, is part of yang/masculine element. Inner creation with the ultimate goal of balance is the yin/feminine element. This time in humankind's history is about balancing the elements, first within, then reflecting it to our creation.
We do not always have to understand each other, although it's a beautiful goal. You have put many key terms in quotes, for example "energy", leading me to think that you expect me to begin to explain these terms from my perspective and experience. Rather than do that, I would gently ask you to familiarize yourself with the concept of yin and yang, to possibly form your own truth or an aspect of it. That done, it's easier to exchange ideas and possibly improve our truths, through open sharing where both parties give as much as they take and energy is balanced.
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Old 27-12-2010, 10:52 AM
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It is so simple and even a child can explain.
Well, try to do if it's so easy..
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Chrysaetos, for me it is more important that we love and respect each other. Masculine/feminine, simplified to the core, is the yin/yang concept that we each carry within. For me, outer creation with all its manifestations, wars included, is part of yang/masculine element. Inner creation with the ultimate goal of balance is the yin/feminine element. This time in humankind's history is about balancing the elements, first within, then reflecting it to our creation.
Thank you.

So outer creation is masculine and inner creation is feminine, according to your definitions. Can I ask you what it is that makes the ''outer'' world masculine and the ''inner'' world feminine?
Culture is significant here, and I see both man and woman focused on ''inner'' and ''outer'' worlds. Woman can be very materialistic and man can be ascetics. I personally don't see a clear polarity.
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