Are There Any Earth Angels Here?

Originally Posted by Occultist

You are aware humans are not Angels and vice versa nor can they ever be.
Angels is actually benieth us we have more say in our lives then angels do.
They were more created to protect and give messages stuff like that. So in theory wouldnt a Earth Angel be a demonic?

Wow.. Occultist is everything ok today? Angels are beneath humans.. So then Humans should let Angels know that and that they dont need Angels help? huh. Humans can do just fine without their Spirit Guides/Guardian Angels is that what you are saying?

I dont want you feel like im attacking you but, I dont know what experience can make you say humans are above Angels.. In your human state - you will never know or be able to perform a fraction of what Angels can do.. You like Never will as long as your in flesh...

All The Glory Belongs To God Forever!

I agree that Angels (in Spirit, only) do not have freewill, Occultist, and that's where we and they differ. They don't have the problems of the incarnated human being "Earth Angel" in that we try to deal with our own ego-issues (all part of being a human being!) while we help, in an ideally non-judgemental way.

I accept Angels-in-Spirit as the workforce of God so-to-speak, their task is to help and support us. We on this planet are actually children of God - though it takes lifetimes for us to "remember" ourselves, and the gifts we have. The Angels are available to us to help, guide and protect as this occurs.
To my mind this earns them the right to a lot of love and respect from us. In their way they are "above" us (they already have the patience and dispassion and lack of ego that a really good Earth Angel needs) but they take their place as our supporters, and we learn from them.

Through the provision of Angels - our Father/Mother God expresses the Love we are each one held in while we grow.

Angels Blessings to All

[froebellian]

Well, all I can say is any advice, wisdom that be imparted to help my path to be less crooked is welcome.

I am a huge sceptic, and get freaked out when 'things' do happen as predicted or as requested. Part of my awakening is accepting help is part of the journey and having faith ( still a struggle, but am getting there)

[vicky3619]

I know what you're talking about, even If I search love (like anyone)I know that I will not marry ahah, and don't think I'll got children either. I recently wanted to do humanitary work , for example to help the earth ( the environement and animal, but also the people of course) I really Do feel I NEED to help !

Originally Posted by Toolite

Wow.. Occultist is everything ok today? Angels are beneath humans.. So then Humans should let Angels know that and that they dont need Angels help? huh. Humans can do just fine without their Spirit Guides/Guardian Angels is that what you are saying?

I dont want you feel like im attacking you but, I dont know what experience can make you say humans are above Angels.. In your human state - you will never know or be able to perform a fraction of what Angels can do.. You like Never will as long as your in flesh...

All The Glory Belongs To God Forever!

I explained it before but sorry if I confused you. We are higher then Angels cause we have Free Will they on the other hand do not.
Fae is above angels because they do as they please angels cannot. Understand? Spirit guides to me are not Angels either but yes a human can do "fine" without a guide many people do everyday cause they blind there eyes to the spirit world. Blocking there Guides.
If you had all the mystical powers in the world but cannot choose what or who to worship or have any freedom what powers do you really have?.

Originally Posted by Occultist

I explained it before but sorry if I confused you. We are higher then Angels cause we have Free Will they on the other hand do not.
Fae is above angels because they do as they please angels cannot. Understand? Spirit guides to me are not Angels either but yes a human can do "fine" without a guide many people do everyday cause they blind there eyes to the spirit world. Blocking there Guides.
If you had all the mystical powers in the world but cannot choose what or who to worship or have any freedom what powers do you really have?.

I like you as a person but, can not agree with you.. so I guess this is where we spiritually maturely agree to disagree.

"our will" in my opinion is the problem thats why we learn to convert our will.. Our will - our real self.. thats what is being fixed in each lifetime.

Im not hushing you in anyway so if you have anything you want to share further of course you will have all my attention. Oh and I said I like you because you are smart..

All The Glory Belongs To God Forever!

On a lighter note, for weekend chatting - the recent T.V. series "Eternal Law".

I thought it was great

In brief - it was a fiction series about how Angels come to the Earth (in all different guises from Doctors to ordinary folks) in order to help struggling humankind. In this case the Angels were incarnated as lawyers Zak Gist, an old hand at earth-work, and Tom Green a newbie Angel here. Each week they defended another case - mostly against another lawyer, Richard, who just happened to be a Dark Angel!

The storyline let us see how even incarnated Angels are subject to temptations and can be led astray. Incarnation allowing them to access freewill just like any other embodied spirit, i.e. - us!

There's to be a second series I believe, and I'm looking forward to it. It would be great if the "dark" Richard was tempted to do something good wouldn't it?

Anyone else see it?

Angel Blessings to All

[froebellian]

I did indeed teabreak.

It shows how we are conflicted and also reminded me to NOT interfere but support and guide. Difficult but there are consequences.

Originally Posted by Toolite

I like you as a person but, can not agree with you.. so I guess this is where we spiritually maturely agree to disagree.

"our will" in my opinion is the problem thats why we learn to convert our will.. Our will - our real self.. thats what is being fixed in each lifetime.

Im not hushing you in anyway so if you have anything you want to share further of course you will have all my attention. Oh and I said I like you because you are smart..

All The Glory Belongs To God Forever!

we are all entitled to our opinions and I like you to Toolite
Witches in general depend on our will and intent and purpose our trueselves.
I honestly do not believe that our freedom to choose or our will is a bad thing that needs repaired. I believe its what makes us powerful and wise because we learn from our mistakes and faults,. I dont know where I would be today if I never made the mistakes I did in my past. It actually made me a better person. Thank you also for allowing me to share Toolite

Originally Posted by froebellian

I did indeed teabreak.

It shows how we are conflicted and also reminded me to NOT interfere but support and guide. Difficult but there are consequences.

Here here to that froebellian It's a fine line to walk, but all learning is a challenging experience. It's an example of how God loves us All in that even if we "fall" there's always the opportunity to try again.

Actually, seeing the next series (of Eternal Law) challenge Richard (the bad angel) to stay true to his darkness would almost be more interesting than watching Zak, Tom and Mrs Sheringham battle to stay "good".

I love their names, too. Zak Gist the old hand, who has got the "gist" of living here on Earth. Tom Green the newbie to Earth life, and Mrs Sheringham (or share-ingham?) who chose to give up her wings in order to share her life with a human, and now as a widow acts as housekeeper and supporter to Zak and Tom. Names have purpose ... even in fiction

Have a good weekend, folks -

Angel Blessings to All