Self-realized States - Masters

If self-realized masters are aware of themselves through every scenario that life or "reality" may present to them

Does that mean they don't react to anything as they constantly remind themselves that "all" is an illusion?

Does it also mean that self-realized masters have witnessed all things and with emotion - they cut it off from themselves and only apply / think logic?

[wstein]

Disclaimer, I am making no claims of being a self-realized master.

Originally Posted by helping soul

If self-realized masters are aware of themselves through every scenario that life or "reality" may present to them

Does that mean they don't react to anything ...

Masters don't 'react' they act. People react/react to the characters in a movie even though they know they are fictional.

Originally Posted by helping soul

... as they constantly remind themselves that "all" is an illusion?

There is no need to remind one's self. How often do you remind yourself that you are you? There is no need to do so.

Originally Posted by helping soul

Does it also mean that self-realized masters have witnessed all things and with emotion - they cut it off from themselves and only apply / think logic?

Its not that they cut themselves off, its that there is no cause to have emotion about most things. I already experience this.

From the 'wider' perspective, much of what humans strongly react to is of little significance. From a local perspective one person dies and they are part of your family, it is a fairly big deal. From the perspective of the whole Earth, its just one person of billions. Still important but no cause for a lot of emotion.

Cutting part of one's self off is to not know part of one's self. As such it's impossible to be fully 'realized' if part is still hidden/denied.

Masters act from their inner nature. Some beings have an emotional nature and will always act/be with emotion. For others, emotion plays little part.

[God-Like]

There is a difference had within or of the realization of self and being aware of having had the realization .

within the realization of what you are everything disappears in such a way where there is no reality nor illusion .

Within the realization there is no-one present to think logically or to feel emotionally . The realization is beyond the intellectual and emotional fields .

The one that has integrated the realization within the awareness of self and of mind can allow and entertain what arises be it thought based on feeling based because they now occupy a space within mind that can entertain them .

Each to their own with what one makes of what arises, but there is general acceptance of what does arise and what does arise one doesn't hold onto .

x daz x

I also am making no claims of being a self-realized master, I am just voicing my view.

Visualizing one's self in a jungle filled with trees, animals, nearby mountains, and the sun shining through dark clouds, how the person describes the visualization will also describe whether the person is self-realized, realized, or something else entirely. Is the sun distant from one's self, or is one's self distant from the sun? The person's own history dictates how the person will interpret the present. The normal human who is born on earth, s/he may say that the sun is distant because the earth is all that the person has ever known (the human is a product of earth), while a space alien who traveled from the sun to earth may say that the sun is where s/he came from (to the alien the sun came first, and life on earth came later).

Similarly, a self-realized master who is/was a normal human will not interpret life the same as an individual who achieved the master's goals prior to birth, nor the same as an individual who was conscious of the nature of the universe from before the sun's existence. The normal/common description of a 'self-realized' master infers a normal/common human who acquired an improved interpretation of reality along with an improved emotional state that is stable and calm, but never will the description fit the individual who is of a superior interpretation and emotional state.

On 'constantly reminding themselves that all is an illusion', if the person once first believed that 'all' was real and with solids, and the person later learned to believe that 'all' is an illusion, then the person's history began in their own illusion (the illusion that anything can be 'solid'), and the person's present must then also be an illusion of believing that they have recognized the illusion. The individuals who began life knowing that 'all' is the human's manner of sensing the wave-based universe, those individuals always have and always will know that 'all' is an 'illusion' of the senses, and there is no need of reminding one's self, the realization is permanent and it permeates the person's every thought and interpretation of everything.

I am unsure of what is intended by only applying thought/logic. An accomplished master of Buddhism or another ideology may appear to be quiet and reserved, but only because the average human does not recognize the master's subtle stable emotions; the emotional state that permits mastery itself. All things are 'emotional', there is no such thing as a thing that is not in some form of emotional state, and as long as a human is alive s/he will exhibit an emotional state.

Any man who claims to be a self-realized master, and the man is not in a constant state of intense love, his claim is untrue.

[CrystalSong]

Originally Posted by helping soul

If self-realized masters are aware of themselves through every scenario that life or "reality" may present to them

Does that mean they don't react to anything as they constantly remind themselves that "all" is an illusion?

I don't know any self proclaimed masters so I've not been able to ask this to one, nor am I one, but I can answer from where I'm standing currently and subject to change, if that might be useful?

It's not so much, nothing is worth reacting to because all is an illusion, it's more that one has the option now on whether one chooses to act or react to something, they aren't just bowled over by opinion, reaction or emotion anymore - it becomes a conscious choice to engage or not, and one tends to engage in things far less because most of other people reacting to something is just them learning in their own way about whatever the subject is, and since one has reached an understanding that everything is working out as it should, there's no ego to intervene and express it's opinion or emotion or reaction concerning something. One tends to view life more as an Observer and from a place of peace. It's all actors adlibing cameo's and walk-on parts on the Great Stage of Consciousness practicing and learning what is Love and what is not Love.

Originally Posted by helping soul

Does it also mean that self-realized masters have witnessed all things and with emotion - they cut it off from themselves and only apply / think logic?

Can't say as logic applies to it, least not for me, it's more about allowance and acceptance. When one is in a place of this one just flows with the river of life viewing the many wonders in the stream of the collected consciousness from a peaceful delighted place.

It's kind of a big picture thing, and here's no logic to the Divine Construct as perceivable to the human mind - there is just as Isness to things and a Beingness in the Isness. One you get that it can't be figured out from 'here', meaning once you discover you know nothing and can't know anything and everything which was once logical is not just another thought train with a certain detached emotional stance to it, then one let's go of even 'knowing'. Rational thought is thinking you know. Every time we think we 'know' something we move further away from knowingness.
Emotion is a reaction, there is a place tho were we decide if we want to experience an emotional response to something or in fact any response at all. From this internal quietness and stillness there exist tremendous options, including just staying in the Quietness.