Why has God forsaken us!?

Parenting 101

At a certain age the child must be responsible
for their own being and environment.

God is the Power source of our Being.
Not the Source of our problems.

[Unseeking Seeker]

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Why has God forsaken us!?

How do we teach a child to cycle or swim?

At some stage ... we let go so that he is enabled through direct experience.

If we do not do so, the empowerment is denied ... the child is denied.

Have we forsaken the child or helped him?

Has God forsaken us by granting us free will?

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[Aknaton]

Originally Posted by ImthatIm

Parenting 101

At a certain age the child must be responsible
for their own being and environment.

God is the Power source of our Being.
Not the Source of our problems.

Amazing! Truly amazing!

[Aknaton]

God is ever communicating, people just are not tuned into this frequency. Remember that you are not just a physical being, but a spiritual one. God is Spirit and is ever looking for those who will commune with Him in Truth and in Spirit. God is waiting for you, you have the choice to go commune with Him.

And what effort has one put in trying to commune with Him? What of the yogis, they leave home to go find out they're inner self and spend many years doing so. What effort has one taken to try and become a multimillionaire? Is it right to say, "Why have millions of dollars forsaken us?"

Gotta put the work in!!!

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by Aknaton

God is ever communicating, people just are not tuned into this frequency.
Remember that you are not just a physical being, but a spiritual one.
God is Spirit and is ever looking for those who will commune with Him in Truth and in Spirit.
God is waiting for you, you have the choice to go commune with Him.
And what effort has one put in trying to commune with Him?
What of the yogis, they leave home to go find out they're inner self and spend many years doing so.
What effort has one taken to try and become a multimillionaire?
Is it right to say, "Why have millions of dollars forsaken us?"

Gotta put the work in!!!

Good one.
The faucet is there and on, flowing...it is truly up to us to have an empty cup and place it in the
right position to be filled.

My experience, anyway.
Life is very simple, really.
Heaven, God, His Kingdom by many names is all around us and in us...
the door is within everything waiting for you to recognize it and open it...
(A paraphrase from Jesus, himself, in Chapter 6 of, 'The Way of Mastery'...
you could take your next breath and realize, 'Here is the Door".
This is not made up stuff...what I just wrote is very very real...more
real than anything you are now looking at with your eyes open, Blakegood88.

Originally Posted by BlakeGood88

First of all, I do believe in God, but why is he letting us down by letting evil things happen? I just don't get it?

God is not letting us down by letting evil things happen. We ate of the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, and we are finding that it has a sweet'n'sour taste. If we keep chewing on it long enough, eventually we will get it.

[Altair]

It might be helpful to not view ''GOD'', as in the highest timeless state of being, as some individual creature with a fixed personality. It should not be confused with the deities, angels, and 'great spirits' etc. From there on, things will make more sense and there's less need for all the ''Why God does this or that?'' drama. Some religions, like Buddhism and Jainism, don't suffer from this or at least far less..

So much talk on ''suffering'' in religion can be self-induced and dependent on abstractions and language constructs..
It can make people feel worse..

Scrap those very things..!!
You'll feel light as rain..

[meetjazz]

I think Aknaton said it very well. If we look realistically, how many people even try get in touch with something bigger then themselves? Especially our current culture, where it seems to be some refusal of something greater then ourselves. It prevails at least in our modern western culture some fundamental denial or avoidance to deal with something higher, smarter,..then us. To whom to pray then if you think you are GOD? To no one. Who to ask then for guidance, help,..if you think you are GOD? No one. I think that such beliefs that ''we are god'' are simply misunderstood or too generalized eastern philosophies, but also if we skipp that, there still gives some denial for connecting with the higher world. There gives immense effort with self-help spirituality, self-help gurus, books,..are booming in the west as crazy. It's a billions $$ industry. If Eckhart Tolle sounds to ''guru like,'' no problem - it goes now even over to pop psychology, where people like Jordan Peterson offer an ''intellectual and scientific way'' to salvation, enlightenment. But nothing seems to work, at least not in the long run or give any real relief, peace of mind, comfort when the times are bad..Connecting with something higher then us,..here are all western and eastern philosophies and religions clear. It will require devotion, it will require effort, it will require some discipline. A while ago I have find an interesting article on this subject with the title: ''Returning to the faith takes time – and effort''. You can google it. I will copy - paste an excerpt from it;
''...Islam tells Muslims to pray five times a day. Five times a day! Evangelicals focus on developing an intense, personal, and time-consuming relationship with Jesus Christ. And many are in church for hours and hours every week.
“Seek and ye shall find” implies, at least to me, seeking with some perseverance. “Ask and you shall receive” does not say ask once, and give up. You may remember the Catholic Catechism warning, “Without prayer your faith will die.” St. Paul says to “pray without ceasing.” I know, that’s a bit tough. “Everyone needs half an hour of prayer each day,” says St. Francis de Sales, lowering the bar considerably. “Except,” he says, “ when we are busy. Then we need an hour.”
And eastern religions tell us the same thing as is writen above.

[Altair]

To whom to pray then if you think you are GOD? To no one. Who to ask then for guidance, help,..if you think you are GOD? No one. I think that such beliefs that ''we are god'' are simply misunderstood or too generalized eastern philosophies, but also if we skipp that, there still gives some denial for connecting with the higher world.

Hi Meetjazz..

Simply put, no. I don't think anyone literally believes they are GOD. That would be a misunderstanding and application of the ''I AM'' stance. Save to say, anyone who doesn't believe the Highest Reality or 'GOD' is a ''person'' or a specific ''form'' can still worship, pray, or focus on other divine guidance. Why would there be a need for an overlord that is a specific person/form..?

Why do you deem it so important to view 'GOD' as a conscious, intelligent person and a specific form..?? There literally is no ''Creation'' in the religious sense or ''Intelligent design'' because how nature functions is not how an intelligent agent functions..

[freebird]

Originally Posted by Altair

Hi Meetjazz..

Simply put, no. I don't think anyone literally believes they are GOD. That would be a misunderstanding and application of the ''I AM'' stance. Save to say, anyone who doesn't believe the Highest Reality or 'GOD' is a ''person'' or a specific ''form'' can still worship, pray, or focus on other divine guidance. Why would there be a need for an overlord that is a specific person/form..?

Why do you deem it so important to view 'GOD' as a conscious, intelligent person and a specific form..?? There literally is no ''Creation'' in the religious sense or ''Intelligent design'' because how nature functions is not how an intelligent agent functions..

Indeed, why God has to be a human? Why can't God be anything else, a Tree or a Lion for example?

Are you reffering to a pantheistic point of view in the last paragraph such as the Universe being the creator?