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10-10-2016, 11:01 AM
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Victim-less crime...
Does it exist and if so is it moral?
Every "victim-less crime" will still have consequences, but will they necessarily be bad just because the masses see any crime as immoral?
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23-10-2016, 03:06 PM
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Guide
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Location: Beyond this illusion some where between Finding God and helping others
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The word crime is not clear here.
The laws are simple, do unto others as you would have done to you.
If you are acting from a place of good intention and kindness what crime could you possibly commit.
Some consider drug activity a victimless crime. Its not. It destroys families and souls alike. Pulling them from God making them chase the drug more and more.
DO unto others as you would have them do unto you
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09-01-2017, 03:57 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Olympia, Washington
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MaryMagdaQueenofQueens
The word crime is not clear here.
The laws are simple, do unto others as you would have done to you.
If you are acting from a place of good intention and kindness what crime could you possibly commit.
Some consider drug activity a victimless crime. Its not. It destroys families and souls alike. Pulling them from God making them chase the drug more and more.
DO unto others as you would have them do unto you
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Treat others how they want to be treated. Don't treat others as you'd want to be treated because maybe other people don't like what you do.
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01-09-2018, 10:29 PM
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Guide
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shivatar
Treat others how they want to be treated. Don't treat others as you'd want to be treated because maybe other people don't like what you do.
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Excuse me, let me clarify here, when i say do unto others, i do not mean, treat them exactly how you would want to be treated as in personal preference.
But rather as in an innate respect for their need to be an individual.
As a person, I would only know how to treat others, as i would want to be treated, and this is, respecting my personal boundaries, and interests.
I can not come across every being, and know exactly how they would like me to treat them.
But i can follow my own rules of boundaries, until a connection evolves an understanding of their nature, and their own requests.
We all want our "boundaries to be respected" no matter what they are.
So in this, I hold to, treat others how you would like to be treated.
I realize this is irrelevant to the thread.
But i was interested to see your response, and I feel what you are saying.
But again, I live only by my experience, so in general can only treat others with the same respect that I would want.
and this can vary from thing to thing for each individual, and I am aware of that.
All is subjective.
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04-09-2018, 11:41 AM
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Driving 10 over the speed limit is a victim-less crime.
Pulling up to a four way intersection and turning without a signal when no one else is there is a victim-less crime.
People making the laws are breaking more than those that they are trying to catch. Their crimes have more victims than 10 World Trade Center.
Our food, water and air are all being poisoned but they are still not considered crimes.
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08-09-2018, 02:11 AM
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Master
Join Date: Mar 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Badcopyinc
Driving 10 over the speed limit is a victim-less crime.
Pulling up to a four way intersection and turning without a signal when no one else is there is a victim-less crime.
People making the laws are breaking more than those that they are trying to catch. Their crimes have more victims than 10 World Trade Center.
Our food, water and air are all being poisoned but they are still not considered crimes.
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the funny thing is, they make the rules partly to be mean, but God redesigned it so that if you actually follow the mean rules they make instead of being resentful, you come out ahead.
BTW do you not think God can deal with poisons when that time comes?
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26-10-2016, 02:09 PM
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Master
Join Date: May 2011
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defining the terms is important; for clarity.
crime is (can be) defined as: "an action or omission that constitutes an
offense that may be prosecuted by the state and is punishable by law."
so, crime is a rules infraction.
it's easy to imagine a rule that doesn't involve a potential victim, so breaking
such a rule would qualify as a "victimless crime".
a definition of 'victimless crime' is: "a legal offense to which all parties
consent and no party is injured."
i can't see how such an act could be construed as immoral... since ALL parties
consent, and no party is injured. if anything, the existence of the law
which made the act illegal is immoral!
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11-12-2016, 04:31 PM
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Seeker
Join Date: Nov 2016
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Awareness is victim-less, everything else is the play of action, reaction.
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12-12-2016, 09:00 AM
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Experiencer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by n2mec
Awareness is victim-less, everything else is the play of action, reaction.
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That. You react from the place of loss and pain as you perceive yourself as a victim. In duality, the other must have done you a crime. Being aware of this can shift your perception as crime is just an illusion.
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12-12-2016, 01:25 PM
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Master
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Location: Pretoria South Africa
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Assisted suicide is what came to my mine as victimless crime and there are no injured persons.
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