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Originally Posted by JustASimpleGuy
How is your ideology and treatise different than any other religious dogma and how is your balloon popping any different than any other dogmatic religion's "mission" to save people?
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S/He that hath eyes that see,
let them see."
That you don't (can't?) see the difference in the content, tone and thrust of what I have articulated so far (which is very clear in
my view) is not within my capacity to 'fix', JASG. I'll take one more stab at opening your eyelids by referencing what
I 'see' as
your distortion of the truth which
implicitly (
unknowingly on your part, I think) 'violates' others, however.
You talk about 'divinity' and '
the absolute'
as though you know the difference between what is 'divine' and what is '
non-divine' and between what is 'absolute' and what is '
not-absolute' and
as though what
you believe-think-n-feel is 'divine' 'and absolute' is 'superior', '
more real', etc. than what you believe-think-n-feel is
not 'divine' and/or
not 'absolute'.
Though you are blind to this, it is clear
to me that what I point to about
your belief-though-n-feeling 'system' is the
same kind of
distortion of the truth and
implicit violation of others' inherent
equality as 'knowers' and 'doers' in the stream of Life as Muslims, Christians, etc. make and do in relation to others when and as said Muslims, Christians, etc. believe-think-and-feel that
they really know what Allah and Jesus (respectively) are and are about and that those who think
otherwise are
ipso facto deluded, infidels, etc. Witness the oneupsmanship implicit in statements like "There is
no god but God!" and "Jesus
is 'Lord'!" - both implying that what
they think of
as 'God' is 'Superior' and 'Supreme' in relation to any and every thing
else.
I say there is no such thing as 'absolute', or, if there is, then that
everyone and
everything and
every kind of happening is 'absolutely' what it is
as is. Also that there is absolutely :smile" nothing that is 'permanently'
the same, that even the 'nature' of what people think of
as 'God' and/or 'the absolute'
changes with each and every change 'in' Creation because Creativity (a/k/a 'Brahman' or 'God') and Creation are dynamically 'bound'
together in a two-way (moebius strip like) feedback loop. Nothing is 'permanently' what it happens to be when 'glimpsed', IOW! I have said all this before and you clearly didn't get it then. I say it
again just in case some glimmer of what I am talking about gets through to you
this time.
What is different between my 'religion' (i.e. 'belief system') and your 'religion' is that mine only recognizes the eternally ever-present and ever-changing Presence of Life
as is. That you mistakenly think that 'awareness' can be and is (in your case?)
always 'the same' (i.e. 'pure' awareness) is like a person thinking 'I' am the same as I was yesterday because my eyes were open then and they are open now, like I imagine you must think that Buddha saying "I am awake" actually
meant that what he 'knew' (at any given moment on any given day) was 'the same' as what he 'knew' the day before, say. He
may have meant
that - I don't know, I wasn't there and, even I was, no one can know
exactly whats going on in someone
else's 'head' or 'heart',
ever! I'm am just saying and
insisting on
equal consideration, in said regard, that I think you don't 'know' what you are talking
about either.
My assertion to the effect that nothing is 'permanent', nothing is 'absolute', 'ultimate', 'superior', or 'more real' when compared to
anything else, and that therefore people who assert that they are are
delusional is a LOGIC-based
deduction and submitted for LOGICal consideration here, just as any
scientific proposition is in a 'science forum' - it is submitted as a
theoretical proposition,
not as an absolutely
'known'
or 'knowable'
fact.
I think people who elect to operate on the basis of
this theory can/will create a
much more creatively functional,
relationally-
integrated 'society' than the 'believers' of 'old time' (
now 'old', that is) have managed to 'tribally' (with 'priestly' types proclaiming 'superior' 'awareness' as the tribe's leaders) managed to do
so far.
The time for the
evolution of
consciousness to take the
next step is
NOW. Those who don't will have to play 'catch up' by reincarnating again and again till they do, IMO - said
opinion being based on my
theory,
not as
indisputably 'known'
fact), which
theory I submit for public
consideration and
evaluation as being
much more LOGICally knit together than yours and,
generally speaking in historical terms
now, others to date.
instead of 'having' or getting more 'in touch' with a 'bigger' immutable/unchanging 'dependable' one who/which 'I' can 'securely' 'depend' on.
Like I said, "You will 'find' (experience!) what you 'seek'." This is the the power of belief and expectation - LOA, in other words.
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