The deception of TF experts and readers

[Aldous]

I just saw something about Scientology on the Investigation Discovery channel. Its amazing how much control they had over people.

[Aldous]

Is there some spiritual message here? Note the part where she says, "did you pray in the sky".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMWEIEXvNWM

[Ciona]

Originally Posted by immortal coil

when god originally tapped me for this mission my exact words were "Why me? I'm not special". It turns out that the reason twin flames are birthed onto this planet is because they've already made the journey to wholeness at least once before. They enter in with a 7th dimensional awareness -

I resonate very much with what you have described here.

My response to the Divine was also a question, lol.

[jro5139]

Emerald, I appreciate your posts. I appreciate some of the others views as well, lots of good insights.

My understanding of the word "surrender" is acceptance of anything. Meaning accepting whatever happens, a different relationship, the same relationship, or maybe even no relationship at all. Anything.
I also came to the realization that the soul/ spirit/ whatever, doesn't care at all if you're in a relationship. It doesn't care how much pain you go through, it only cares to get you to your optimal point of existence. However, it can best get you there.

I like what you said about being open to others, in a heart sense. Doesn't mean the others will be a romantic relationship. It seems to be more about having an open heart chakra in general. Having a spiritual awakening is also about being more service to others, that's what you become.
I've had other connections as well besides tf, and some where just as intense or close to it. Some I could be just as happy with in a romantic relationship, but that's not the important thing to this life. So when people talk about other connections, I get it. But I can't see mistaken your tf for anyone else. In fact my tf will always be that to me, even if I never see him again. If I sometime and for some reason have that experience again, with someone else, than I'll have to question if I have more than one tf, but I could never decide that my tf was not my tf.
Everyone's experience is different. I never had the spiritual experiences, or telepathy or sensing and knowing things about them, with anyone else. I've had telepathy with others, but not to that extent. Not even with my near twin.

As for questioning the teachers, I find it interesting that we all think its good to question the tf teachers, but it seems like we blindly believe every other type of teaching? I see a lot of ** when it comes to loa as well, as it's taught by "teachers" on youtube. I think we need to question everything, especially in the spiritual community. Even when you find teachers that you believe, continue to question them. And remember, nobody is 100% right about everything, 100% of the time.

[Aldous]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existential_nihilism

[Aldous]

Scroll down in this thread to the part on astral travel (My Out of the Body Experiences), especially about the man in the sky. Was this the angel of death or one of his subordinate angels?
https://www.hyperlab.info/inv/index....7&t=30352&st=0 (click continue at the bottom of the page to get to the thread)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azrael

[Ariaecheflame]

It's a big universe out there...

So much to love.

[Ariaecheflame]

With the going down of the sun...
Enters the night... and then
The morning sky
Expands as the horizon
Is lit up, slowly but surely...
By the sun.

The greater view can be taken in
But at first all that can be seen
Is the first ray of the sun
And that is what we
Fixate on...

But that is not the end of the sunset...
We cannot capture one ray of the sun...
If we surrender to the whole scene -
And unfold with the emerging dawn...
Let our view expand...
We will see, feel and know
So much more than just
That single
Ray alone.

We are the sun... the horizon
The one experiencing it as it rises
In the morn'
And we are
Everything in this scene...and
Everything in between

And yet we are so much more....




It's a big universe out there
There is alot to love.

[Aldous]

'Submerged in Symbolism' - An occult analysis of The Beatles' Yellow Submarine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIhIYu20JnE

[white-dove]

Originally Posted by emeraldheart

I've been thinking about these TF 'experts'... the law of attraction and the perpetual prison many of these readers trap can their followers in.

Quite a number of them started reading with one partner in mind - the supposed TF and then later on down the track come out with a new TF partner who is apparently the real one this time. They experience the same types of energies with both... same psychic experiences... same heart activated 3rd energy ect and they all teach a focus on letting go yet remaining faithful to the union with the subject of YOUR... the followers specific partner of intrest.

This is not giving the universe much breathing space. It is given an ultimatum - the supposed TF or nothing.

And so nothing ever comes except more of the same... same cycle of letting go of the one - surrendering to the one... having faith in the one.
Is this not selling yourself a bit short?!

One thing which I have been experiencing these last few months and years after my initial TF awakening is MANY other soul connections in which I have experienced similar energy dynamics between open hearts. Open hearts speak to one another and in truth our energetic field is and does merge with many.
When I speak to some of my higher guides a merge of energy takes place. This is the way which souls communicate when free of ego.

This continued story which supposed TF experts are SELLING is leaving many imprisoned to the vast potential of the human soul to give - express and experience - recieve love.

The TF template was never meant to be 'eternal' as in eternal union to another...
It was meant to arrive onto earth in order to teach us how to be open to our divine connection to source.... and then open our hearts to each other - the cosmic heart of humanity and soul.

I will keep repeating myself no doubt - and you may take it or leave it...

But the energy of the new template as I am experiencing it... is that the TF experience inevitably leads to a continued expansion of soul connection.
It teaches us how to live from and connect from the heart -
Free of ego -
Free of social expectations which have been the normal templates for love for thousands of years...
It allows love to flow freely as it is meant to...
And it shows us how to communicate and connect to each other's - yes others beyond TF... as a unified living organisim
Heart to heart - soul to soul...

That is of course if you allow it to teach and guide you.

It seems there is a choice at some point along this journey and neither choice is good or bad - wrong or right.

We can choose to apply all the heart awakening lessons and soul connecting to just one in a traditional and monogamous 3d type based relationship...
Or we can allow the teachings to expand our hearts, minds and souls even more than we realised possible...

We are one... co-habitating as one organisim and we can communicate in so many ways which is not limited to simply verbal communication.

Our energy imprints others and our environments and even the universe is impacted by our energy as one web...

TF template was always designed to pass away... in order for a much grander universal vision to emerge in its place.
For all souls to eventually remember the extent of our connection to others and the many ways in which souls communicate to each other.

I think the only 'TF expert' who ever delves into the expanding truth beyond the deception of TF as the eternal without exception is Gold Ray Twin Flames... he speaks about the nature of expanding connections alot.

I agree very much with what you say and it fits in with my experience. I was Remote Influenced by someone - whether intentionally or not, that I do not know - it was a combination of a very painful and difficult awakening (as I had no idea what was happening to me... even got sick and had a nervous breakdown), and a time of enormous awakening. Pressure in the forehead (found something on YouTube about 'third eye' - first I ever heard about it!)

I have come out of it with the instinctive knowledge of precisely what you describe. And it is really beautiful. Sometimes i wish I had stayed numb... but overall I am happy this has happened.

I'm extricating myself with enormous difficulty from this intense relationship with my 'twin flame', who I had assumed was the source of all of this beautiful, positive energy - now I realise he is an ordinary (well, ok, extraordinary) man and that he was not the source but the conduit or catalyst for me.

I read up about RS and RI because of what happened to me and it all rang true. I believe he did it accidentally to me and out of his own desperate need for connection. But while reading I couldn't help but think how one-sided and potentially damaging this stuff is. Just perpetuating individualism and a culture of self-interest, when it should be doing just the opposite!

My only hope is that people change through the actual practising of it, to become more connected and loving. Even if their intentions were selfish and acquisitive to begin with.