Astral projecting in lucid dream

[I AM]

Originally Posted by Xan

...it seems to be a choice as to wether I want to experience it as a dream or a projection.


Yes... that's my sense also, or was, back when I had such an option. These days I'm lead everywhere, yet with a distinct sense of different ways I may be experiencing dimensions beyond this one.


Xan

I think I get where you are going but can you elaborate.

[Xan]

My sojourns beyond this world and ordinary mind don't come from my desire to go somewhere or experience something or meet up with someone or to answer questions, but are expressions of my spiritual work. The higher members of our team direct it all and I get to fully participate in whatever is our task of the moment wherever it may take place. I'm sure I'm not the only one involved in work in this way.

Does that answer your question?


Xan

[I AM]

Originally Posted by Xan

My sojourns beyond this world and ordinary mind don't come from my desire to go somewhere or experience something or meet up with someone or to answer questions, but are expressions of my spiritual work. The higher members of our team direct it all and I get to fully participate in whatever is our task of the moment wherever it may take place. I'm sure I'm not the only one involved in work in this way.


Does that answer your question?


Xan

Interesting.........
We are so different, you and I.

Chuck..

[Xan]

Different is good.

And, it's okay... I'm just weird.


Xan

Hello I AM.

Do you think that after doing this for a long enough time a lucid dream could automaticly cause a projection?

I can not find or even think of any reason why what you ask in the quote above should not be the case, I personally can no longer distinguish between the Astral and Dream Environments(Lucid or otherwise), and of late this is becoming , perhaps uneccessarily, something of a problem to me (possibly alone) as When I AP, someone can say with no substantation, "No that was not AP, it was a Lucid Dream " or vice verse.

Best Wishes Neville

[IsleWalker]

Originally Posted by Xan

Different is good.

And, it's okay... I'm just weird.

I can't help but comment...off subject (sorry).

I was watching an International House Hunters episode...in the Netherlands. The guy, who was Dutch, reals off a string of words and says, "Loosely translated it means, "Just be normal; that's weird enough."



Islewalker - Lora

[Xan]

Good one....


Xan

[Apakhana Akshobhya]

It can be a problem trying to distinguish the difference between the astral plane and the world of our own dreams. What has been the most important thing for me is to understand they are 2 different locations to focus into.

Lucid dreaming can be a springboard to astral projecting but something critical has to take place and that thing is that the mind has to be still and thoughts have to be shut off. As soon as you think about something or dream images pop up you can sink into a dream and lose focus on the astral locale.

Only recently I have found this exact nexus point in the experience that determines which focus I'll phase into, although I've known of it for quite some time. it will be presumabely different also amongst individuals.

[Xan]

Lucid dreaming can be a springboard to astral projecting but something critical has to take place and that thing is that the mind has to be still and thoughts have to be shut off. As soon as you think about something or dream images pop up you can sink into a dream and lose focus on the astral locale.

This is the best point yet, AA.


Only recently I have found this exact nexus point in the experience that determines which focus I'll phase into...

Good subtle self awareness.


Xan

you can sink into a dream and lose focus on the astral locale.

So the dream is not an Astral locale ?

Oh OK, I know...I am labouring the point now I am 100 % sure that your expoeriences are entirely what you percieve them to be , Which I guess is the top and bottom of the whole business really.

Namaste