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Old 31-12-2017, 06:37 AM
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Freewill is magic. And Freewill is allowance. And Freewill is acceptance.
And Freewill is strength. And Freewill is amazing. And Freewill is amaring.
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Old 31-12-2017, 10:55 AM
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No, I think we are enslaved to time and fate.
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Old 31-12-2017, 11:49 AM
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Freewill is part of amazing. We do not have what
it takes is not the probem. I walk into this, it's
just another one of mine. Aswell, are we going
to judge Freewill? No, it's a partake of the
ancient.
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Old 31-12-2017, 11:58 AM
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No, I think we are enslaved to time and fate.
Check out the song "freewill" by Rush. Great song.
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Old 31-12-2017, 12:54 PM
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I see free will like this, for example your in a bad relationship. But for some reason you feel safe in that bad relationship. So you choose to stay in it. Since people like to feel safe over everything that cycle keeps going. But you always have the choice to change but often choose not to because your afaid to step of your safe zone. Either way its your choice. Just in case someone doesn't think freewill exist.
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Old 31-12-2017, 04:37 PM
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No, I think we are enslaved to time and fate.

What about a person who changes their mind about something? Wouldn't changing a decision be that. I would say many times there is a reason for decisions but that is not about free will. I say often decisions take many years yet we remain the deciders. iow there is the ability to have it. Isn't it therefore a potential. Take 2 people on the opposite sides of an issue. If there is no free will then there is a falseness to any so called difference, it would be an illusion. If there is no free will then what is it they see that is the same. I think the idea here is one doesn't think like another. Defending one's position is what happens and it is emotion and the logic to emotion is merely a consistence that is built into us. Imagine free will happening constantly and how unstable that would be changing ones minds back and forth on a whim with no control about it. Freewill isn't suppose to be permanent either right now and somehow more in the realm of now. Actually I say based on what you said reveals the opposite and with freewill time is required for it to operate. Free will is very slow. I mention this because I use the same words to show it is not true. I find this interesting like 2 people seeing different things using the words you use above. Can the mind transcend? Freewill is not free.
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Old 02-01-2018, 05:31 PM
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I just realized something brought to mind that may or may not be important in relation to living and existing here. Freewill is not even needed. It's not needed to live and exist here. We can do fine without it and don't have to use it. The question then, what's important? What do we accept. Accepting seems to be that which is the question. Whether one believes in free will or not, both sides must agree that freewill is not necessary to make it and flourish here. Is this at all important. Is freewill associated with higher self or higher consciousness to see.
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