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14-08-2016, 06:09 PM
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The crux of what? That is not Buddhism, but then you both have said you are not Buddhists and don't follow Buddhism. In Buddhism, there is no "you" to allow something. That is ego or the false self.
My, me, I..... Not Buddhism.
In Zen, the practice is to be selfless. Not be a self trying to be selfless.
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15-08-2016, 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by RyanWind
The crux of what? That is not Buddhism, but then you both have said you are not Buddhists and don't follow Buddhism. In Buddhism, there is no "you" to allow something. That is ego or the false self.
My, me, I..... Not Buddhism.
In Zen, the practice is to be selfless. Not be a self trying to be selfless.
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Your mind likes to dictate itself
But that is ok
Being more self aware than you, I don't let me ego dance all over the page like you tend to do in your "KNOWLEDGE" based desire to be get things the way YOU want them to be
No full stops either, did you notice
Can you notice
This is really the key Ryan
For you at least
Like do you actually have the ability to notice beyond your brain and knowledge of things
Within this aspiration of yours so clearly spewing over all the pages showing us your ego thinking that you believe your teaching us all something
I chuckle to myself
I learn from all the others here which is nice
We shall see about you
I wait in amusement for your reply
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Man has learned how to challenge both Nature and art to become the incitements to vice! His very cups he has delighted to engrave with libidinous subjects, and he takes pleasure in drinking from vessels of obscene form! Pliny the Elder
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15-08-2016, 05:41 AM
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Like do you actually have the ability to notice beyond your brain and knowledge of things...
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Millions of people practice mindfulness. You think this is some advanced ability?
A google search on "mindfulness" brings up 40 million hits.
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15-08-2016, 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by RyanWind
Millions of people practice mindfulness. You think this is some advanced ability?
A google search on "mindfulness" brings up 40 million hits.
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If you were not you or others then where is mindfulness. It becomes imagination of nothing. May be the same as the King's new clothes. He doesn't wear any but everyone said the clothes are so beautiful then there's always no clothes. A Chinese idiom: the noise of million mosquitoes result as thunder.
Sorry I don't mean mindfulness is nothing because it's something. But can it helps million of them as they have seen it? Haha!!!
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15-08-2016, 07:05 AM
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Being more self aware than you, I don't let me ego dance all over the page...
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If you are aware of something, it means it is not you. You are that which sees it. Any self you are aware of is ego, not you. |
15-08-2016, 07:41 AM
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If you are aware of something, it means it is not you. You are that which sees it. Any self you are aware of is ego, not you.
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I am still not learning anything from all this from you
Why is that I wonder
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Man has learned how to challenge both Nature and art to become the incitements to vice! His very cups he has delighted to engrave with libidinous subjects, and he takes pleasure in drinking from vessels of obscene form! Pliny the Elder
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15-08-2016, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeremy Bong
If you were not you or others then where is mindfulness. It becomes imagination of nothing. May be the same as the King's new clothes. He doesn't wear any but everyone said the clothes are so beautiful then there's always no clothes. A Chinese idiom: the noise of million mosquitoes result as thunder.
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Me likes this Jeremy
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“God’s one and only voice are Silence.” ~ Herman Melville
Man has learned how to challenge both Nature and art to become the incitements to vice! His very cups he has delighted to engrave with libidinous subjects, and he takes pleasure in drinking from vessels of obscene form! Pliny the Elder
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15-08-2016, 07:55 AM
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I like Chinese idiom and idiom "becomes" me, I think that's one way call "mindfulness"or "completeness". |
15-08-2016, 09:17 AM
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I am still not learning anything...
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Well you are attracted to Buddhism or you would not be in a Buddhist thread. So don't give up! It will sink in eventually. Perhaps some unconscious part of you wants to know Buddhism.
One nice exercise for you:
You posted this: Your mind likes to dictate itself...
This is one of many things you learned from me...ask yourself why. Why is this an interest of yours? My mind?
If you want to learn mindfulness, there are many online sources, just google it. :) |
15-08-2016, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeremy Bong
If you were not you or others then where is mindfulness. It becomes imagination of nothing. May be the same as the King's new clothes. He doesn't wear any but everyone said the clothes are so beautiful then there's always no clothes. A Chinese idiom: the noise of million mosquitoes result as thunder.
Sorry I don't mean mindfulness is nothing because it's something. But can it helps million of them as they have seen it? Haha!!!
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There is no 'self ' in mindfulness from my understanding Jeremy. |
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