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30-07-2013, 12:50 PM
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The problem i when personal truths are made up of ideas that arent actually true...
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In my current understanding of Buddhism there is no true or false , no right or wrong , no good or bad so if we keep on using our common knowledge as a guide we will always know what we already known ...we will be our knowledge that we gain ...Buddhism is beyond knowledge ........so using knowledge as our guide perhaps is limitation to our liberation , we will be the one we wish to be ....and that is suffering .
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30-07-2013, 12:52 PM
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Perhaps many people avoiding debate because they claim to accept what is truth .......so what is the truth ? To me the only truth is Buddhism and nothing is outside Buddhism ......no one and nothing could escape buddhism.
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Last I checked I wasnt a Buddhist. But if you wish to believe I am its cool. Lol.
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30-07-2013, 12:55 PM
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In my current understanding of Buddhism there is no true or false , no right or wrong , no good or bad so if we keep on using our common knowledge as a guide we will always know what we already known ...we will be our knowledge that we gain ...Buddhism is beyond knowledge ........so using knowledge as our guide perhaps is limitation to our liberation , we will be the one we wish to be ....and that is suffering .
Thks CSEe
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Or you can follow your heart. But I see what your getting at. I believe to know what that feels like. But in life you gotta go by something. Or else you do nothing. Life isn't suffering unless you don't like it. And then in the bliss its very hard to suffer. And then it blows away like the wind. No biggy.
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30-07-2013, 01:04 PM
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Last I checked I wasnt a Buddhist. But if you wish to believe I am its cool. Lol.
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In my current understanding base on my realization by understanding of Siddharta's words ...Buddhism is a natural process of anyone and everything . There is no other happening to all existence just Buddhism .
Every existence - living such as human , animal , plant , micro-orgsm or non-living - rock , metal , car , table , pen etc is all in own journey releasing its energy towards emptiness back into nothingness ............so all is Buddhist , nothing escape Buddhism .
So in my current understanding all living or non-living even the dirt under my shoes is same as myself- Buddhist .
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30-07-2013, 01:20 PM
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Dear running , you said I quote " Or you can follow your heart. But I see what your getting at. I believe to know what that feels like." un-quote
Perhaps " following heart" is following own emotion ...in common human knowledge perhaps that is great but in my current understanding , Buddhism is a process realizing our emotion , accepting our emotion and naturally we will decrease all our emotion not to further practice it .......
You said , I quote " But in life you gotta go by something. Or else you do nothing. Life isn't suffering unless you don't like it. And then in the bliss its very hard to suffer. And then it blows away like the wind. No biggy" un-quote
In life , in common human culture , yes is common for human to have faith / beliefs / goal / wish / ambition etc and moving towards that ......but in my current understanding of Buddhism concept ......perhaps that is the cause of our existence / our suffering or joy ........Buddhism is a natural process and regardless what we do , we will all progressing into emptiness not by choice , not by practices ...is natural but we always have option whether to take a longer / more suffeting path or shorter / less suffering journey ... the choice is always ours ......
Life in Buddhism is not joy or suffering .....joy or suffering is a reflection of our emotion and our emotion is the cause of our existence - the pollutant in nothingness . Buddhism is to understand / realize our emotion and as we progress into greater realization , all our emotion will naturally decreased ... our joy or suffering will also be decreased ........
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30-07-2013, 01:31 PM
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In my current understanding base on my realization by understanding of Siddharta's words ...Buddhism is a natural process of anyone and everything . There is no other happening to all existence just Buddhism .
Every existence - living such as human , animal , plant , micro-orgsm or non-living - rock , metal , car , table , pen etc is all in own journey releasing its energy towards emptiness back into nothingness ............so all is Buddhist , nothing escape Buddhism .
So in my current understanding all living or non-living even the dirt under my shoes is same as myself- Buddhist .
Thks CSEe
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Your world is clearly Buddhism. So yeah nothing escapes you. That's your deal and your choice.
And I can agree with some of what your saying as it relates to my experience. I just have my eyes open along the ride. The bliss for me is the same either way
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30-07-2013, 01:36 PM
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Dear running , you said I quote " Or you can follow your heart. But I see what your getting at. I believe to know what that feels like." un-quote
Perhaps " following heart" is following own emotion ...in common human knowledge perhaps that is great but in my current understanding , Buddhism is a process realizing our emotion , accepting our emotion and naturally we will decrease all our emotion not to further practice it .......
You said , I quote " But in life you gotta go by something. Or else you do nothing. Life isn't suffering unless you don't like it. And then in the bliss its very hard to suffer. And then it blows away like the wind. No biggy" un-quote
In life , in common human culture , yes is common for human to have faith / beliefs / goal / wish / ambition etc and moving towards that ......but in my current understanding of Buddhism concept ......perhaps that is the cause of our existence / our suffering or joy ........Buddhism is a natural process and regardless what we do , we will all progressing into emptiness not by choice , not by practices ...is natural but we always have option whether to take a longer / more suffeting path or shorter / less suffering journey ... the choice is always ours ......
Life in Buddhism is not joy or suffering .....joy or suffering is a reflection of our emotion and our emotion is the cause of our existence - the pollutant in nothingness . Buddhism is to understand / realize our emotion and as we progress into greater realization , all our emotion will naturally decreased ... our joy or suffering will also be decreased ........
Thks CSEe
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When I speak of bliss it has nothing to do with emotions. When I speak of following my heart it has to do with frequency and or energy from my center.
Joy is increased in anyone I have met who has grown spiritually. That's the whole point for many. It over rides circumstances and or emotions. Its very powerful.
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30-07-2013, 01:37 PM
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Your world is clearly Buddhism. So yeah nothing escapes you. That's your deal and your choice.
And I can agree with some of what your saying as it relates to my experience. I just have my eyes open along the ride. The bliss for me is the same either way
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Thats my current understand my friend and is not a faith or beliefs ... I always challenge it , that is why I am here .............
Thks CSEe
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30-07-2013, 01:43 PM
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Csee
Sorry forgot the life part you mentioned.
In life being in the moment and in acceptance of what is let's the energy flow freely. Walaaah bliss! A powerful current of constant happiness! That's my experience anyways
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30-07-2013, 01:45 PM
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Thats my current understand my friend and is not a faith or beliefs ... I always challenge it , that is why I am here .............
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Well I'm glad your here. Its fun throwing around some thoughts and such. Thanks!
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