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Originally Posted by andrew g
I think the primates have a very basic ego, a very basic sense of 'other'. They have very very little self-image, very little self awareness compared to humans. So they experience less mental suffering, but also have less creative potential. The advanced ego is a curse and a blessing. With it comes the potential for a lot of mental torment, suffering and insanity, but also with it comes the potential for a lot of creativity, celebration, joy and playfulness.
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Yes. I think you hit on it. I think at some point...ppl realise their true nature...and this is an ongoing process of course. There are always deeper levels of realisation.
But at some point, there is a general awareness of the One. That the separation is an illusion. And this is a great moment, when we can carry this forth into our daily awareness as a general, foundational truth of existence.
But then I think, the challenge is to bring more of this awareness into our individuated existence...to elevate our individuated awareness and bring that back to the One...and to the collective. We are not born as One (LOL). We are born as one(s). In an existence that is both spiritual and material...and there is not necessarily a hard line that can be drawn between these two aspects anywhere down the line.
And for me, that's where we must ground all our experience...between one (or collective one) and One...the Tibetans and others call it uniting Heaven and Earth...this is what it's all about for me...not leaving Earth behind (LOL...that'll happen on it's own, it's called death...).
I do not use the term trinity in the usual Christian sense. But the notion of a divine trinity is a metaphysical reprensentation and to me resounds on various personal (and interpersonal) levels under One/God...and also speaks to the relationship of the one and the collective under One. Different levels of trinity. But there is an apex, and whilst we connect with that, we are not that.
Even if we were seemingly immortal, and could control time and space, there would be still be a recognition of the gap. In fact, we might have a clearer idea of it at that time
We are God-like...we can each recognise God within, but we are not the One...and that's ok...God is perfected or beyond this concept, but we all still are in the process of becoming...even though yes all are perfect as they are. As the Zen masters say...we're all perfect as we are, but some of us are more perfect(ed) than others. LOL...
Peace,
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