'ISness"

[chadley]

WhiteShaman,

I know just what you mean. I call that "the zone" which is another elevated state of consciousness and a no doubt related experience.

There was a neat thread about it a while back which I believe was unfortunately lost with the server crash. In my experiences with isness, however, the awareness of the place or 'no place' of isness is included in the totality of isness. This is why it is sometimes referred to as "The Now". For me, rather than going by as if in a dream and noticing it afterwards, there is the immeasurable impact of nowness that stays with me and echos within my awareness afterwards for a very long time. There is an integration of the experience/awareness/no awareness within ur life going forward and allows you to enjoy everything in life with more joy and peace. When I described hearing the sound of the aum or godsound or whatever you want to call it within other sounds this is what I believe to be an example of that echo.

to say there is "no awareness" or "isntness" is only going to be understood in isness. Just reading that last statement looks ridiculous, I know which is why you will have better luck not trying to. Understanding itself is, by some definitions, a process that indicates ur are outside of isness.

See what I mean? Even though I think I know what Im talking about, when I read the above paragraph it just looks like more and more abstractly esoteric philosophic mumbo jumbo.

This is why I suggest to people to put down your books, stop reading, stop thinking and philosophising. It had its purpose, now let it go....let go all the belief systems and theories, they only get in your way. If your lucky, the sounds will stop, your brain will stop, everything will stop, and isness will be realized....errr....unrealized? ;)

Greetings..

Hi Chadley: Athletes find the 'zone', a shift in the action that transforms time and space, i understand the experience as 'transrational'.. in my early years i was fortunate to have transrational experiences in the form of surfing, combat ('fortunate' might be debatable in this context), and also a brief and painful career as a professional kick-boxer.. i noticed that the higher the odds of physical termination, the easier it is to find the 'zone'..

So, for years i studied this phenomenon, and have concluded that energetic coherence, both internally and as a relationship with the environment, will shift the experiencer's awareness to incorporate significantly broader ranges of frequencies.. as our awareness has expanded exponentially and references such an expanded range of frequencies, our normal operating mode seems 'out of synch', slow-motion, and detail is evident as interconnected relationships.. every action seems to produce a symbiotic environmental consequence of precision with maximum benefit and minimum effort.. all while enjoying the 'Silent Symphony'.. i have worked with several people who understand this phenomenon from different perspectives to develop a training discipline that offers a relaible and nearly instant access to 'The Zone'.. but, that's only half the battle, the other half is maintaining this transrational experience for extended intervals and, at useful and stable intensities.. still working on the stability and duration issues, but.. understanding breath and structural alignment relationships is proving to be key..

Ooops.. i think i'm rambling..

Be well..

[BlueSky]

Originally Posted by chadley

WhiteShaman,

I know just what you mean. I call that "the zone" which is another elevated state of consciousness and a no doubt related experience.

There was a neat thread about it a while back which I believe was unfortunately lost with the server crash. In my experiences with isness, however, the awareness of the place or 'no place' of isness is included in the totality of isness. This is why it is sometimes referred to as "The Now". For me, rather than going by as if in a dream and noticing it afterwards, there is the immeasurable impact of nowness that stays with me and echos within my awareness afterwards for a very long time. There is an integration of the experience/awareness/no awareness within ur life going forward and allows you to enjoy everything in life with more joy and peace. When I described hearing the sound of the aum or godsound or whatever you want to call it within other sounds this is what I believe to be an example of that echo.

to say there is "no awareness" or "isntness" is only going to be understood in isness. Just reading that last statement looks ridiculous, I know which is why you will have better luck not trying to. Understanding itself is, by some definitions, a process that indicates ur are outside of isness.

See what I mean? Even though I think I know what Im talking about, when I read the above paragraph it just looks like more and more abstractly esoteric philosophic mumbo jumbo.

This is why I suggest to people to put down your books, stop reading, stop thinking and philosophising. It had its purpose, now let it go....let go all the belief systems and theories, they only get in your way. If your lucky, the sounds will stop, your brain will stop, everything will stop, and isness will be realized....errr....unrealized? ;)

Well said my friend! You are an asset to this forum.
nice post, full of wisdom............I especially enjoyed the last statement.

[chadley]

Whiteshaman, thank you. Anybody who thinks Im cool is ok with me, lol.

Tzu, can I hear your thougts on the differences between the discussed "zone", "isness" and the creative flow that whiteshaman describes? Only if you have the energy, I know that your are advancing in age, jk ;)

Greetings..

Originally Posted by chadley

Whiteshaman, thank you. Anybody who thinks Im cool is ok with me, lol.

Tzu, can I hear your thougts on the differences between the discussed "zone", "isness" and the creative flow that whiteshaman describes? Only if you have the energy, I know that your are advancing in age, jk ;)

Aye, Lad, could you speak a bit more loudly, i think the hearing's slippin' away, too.. mind's already gone, ya know, eh..

'ISness' is the process that transforms unmanifested potential into manifested reality.. it is as mundane as 'isness', as descriptive as 'creativity', and as achievable as the 'zone'.. which is to say, no real difference.. 'isness' seems more broadly applicable, perhaps as the canvas upon which creativity is best expressed when the creator is "in the zone"... The sky is _________ .... this is where creative communication describes the sky, sometimes artfully, sometimes simply.. some of the better 'now' communication experiences have involved pointing, nodding, and smiling.. where the observation spoke for everone involved, 'isness'.. no more need be said, the experience was self-evident..

Be well..

[chadley]

Originally Posted by TzuJanLi

Greetings..


Aye, Lad, could you speak a bit more loudly, i think the hearing's slippin' away, too.. mind's already gone, ya know, eh..

'ISness' is the process that transforms unmanifested potential into manifested reality.. it is as mundane as 'isness', as descriptive as 'creativity', and as achievable as the 'zone'.. which is to say, no real difference.. 'isness' seems more broadly applicable, perhaps as the canvas upon which creativity is best expressed when the creator is "in the zone"... The sky is _________ .... this is where creative communication describes the sky, sometimes artfully, sometimes simply.. some of the better 'now' communication experiences have involved pointing, nodding, and smiling.. where the observation spoke for everone involved, 'isness'.. no more need be said, the experience was self-evident..

Be well..

Now for your next assignment.....hehe

Actually, I have nother more to add. Thank you for your answer, I know how confusing these computer gismos can be for the elderly. Actually, I turn 40 next week. Im running out of time to burst into a ball of fully enlightned smoke. You know just how close I am too....any minute now...

Originally Posted by chadley

Now for your next assignment.....hehe

Actually, I have nother more to add. Thank you for your answer, I know how confusing these computer gismos can be for the elderly. Actually, I turn 40 next week. Im running out of time to burst into a ball of fully enlightned smoke. You know just how close I am too....any minute now...

How do you know you're close?

[chadley]

Originally Posted by meta_synthesis

How do you know you're close?

Oh, sorry, thought it was obvious that I was joking about that. Even if it were true, I would never openly tell everyone that Im on the verge of being fully enlightened.

Originally Posted by chadley

Oh, sorry, thought it was obvious that I was joking about that. Even if it were true, I would never openly tell everyone that Im on the verge of being fully enlightened.

Sorry that's what I get for never reading the prior posts.

My bad.

But so, why would't you tell everyone you're on the verge of full awakening if you sincerely felt you were?

[chadley]

Originally Posted by meta_synthesis

Sorry that's what I get for never reading the prior posts.

My bad.

But so, why would't you tell everyone you're on the verge of full awakening if you sincerely felt you were?

No worries, btw, I wasnt joking in the prior posts, just that one.

To answer your question, think about this carefully, why would you tell anyone? The only reason for posting on the forum would likely contain at least a trace of ego, don't you think. Also, I don't think an individual so advanced would describe it like that anyway.