Indigenous Spirit of All colors

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Originally Posted by ImthatIm

In reference to a fetch:I have never heard of such Irish folklore.
I know very little about Irish folklore or culture.

Well, me neither and I do not know what “Celtic Shamanism” is, but I guess one can always hear when there is a sound ring to a bell or when the Carnyx sounds ‘right’, has the ‘right’ echo to it ...

Originally Posted by ImthatIm

I have heard of a type of Spirit double.

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It seems, when it is translated by the Western mind (map) it is assumed to be the “Astral Double” or some people “possessing Siddhis” or maybe some indig. superstition sees it as a “shapeshifter” – I don’t know.

But it is just yourself in an energetic form, and it tells more about ‘you’ than the physical form does or one’s mind-maps.

Originally Posted by ImthatIm

In reference to the vid. talking about the energy field:
Yeah, that seems very plausible.I believe in the energy field very much so.
I also believe in a type of guru above the head.

In reference to the video. I do not know about the chakras. We haven’t got those in our culture, so it is learned “mind map data-knowledge” I have of them, therefore I cannot speak confidently about them, but the “luminous energy field” is true. That I know.

In regards to Fire.
All the departed are just as dumb as they were in life, so I do not understand why “spiritualists” (Spiritual Church) makes such a fuss about them.

But. I did have a muso friend in London, with whom we had, what I call a ‘nondual connection’.
And he had referred to that nondual connection as seeing “Light”.

When he passed away & came for a visit, he gave me a ‘practice’ I should do:
“Keep Pure within the Circle of Fire”
“Keeping pure within the circle of fire makes your spirit glow and it is a beautiful sight for us.”

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[sentient]

Originally Posted by ImthatIm

I have no idea if this helps any to answer your question any.
It is just something I was reminded of, these natural gifts and talents.
Here in the USA they tell you "you can be anything you want to be".Of course they mean within their system.

Yeah, and this is what I find so disturbing about the “white-man’s-culture”.
Consider me mentally disturbed, because I am.

When I say that I don’t have to beee indigenous, I mean, it is ‘written’ in my ‘energy field’ already, nothing “I” can do about it – it is an ‘imprint’, an ‘energy-signature’ …

At first I did not understand what the Aboriginal Elders were telling me when they said: “You have still got your dreaming”, or that: “You know who you are”

I do? ???

And to the “white” audience they would say: “You don’t know who you are”.
(But I guess they meant: “You are looking for “talent” outside yourself”).

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Originally Posted by sentient

???

It seems, when it is translated by the Western mind (map) it is assumed to be the “Astral Double” or some people “possessing Siddhis” or maybe some indig. superstition sees it as a “shapeshifter” – I don’t know.

Yeah, in the line off shapeshifting.I don't know how that stuff works.

I just made up the phrase 'Spirit double'.
I though it sounded good at the time.
All this stuff is interwoven and connected and hard for me separate out to assign words to them.

[sentient]

Originally Posted by ImthatIm

Yeah, in the line off shapeshifting.I don't know how that stuff works.

I just made up the phrase 'Spirit double'.
I though it sounded good at the time.
All this stuff is interwoven and connected and hard for me separate out to assign words to them.

Sounded alright to me …
Never seen a person to actually “shapeshift”, but at times I have seen an indigenous person’s Totem superimposed upon their ‘energy field’ & one Elder told me that: “Yep, that is form their spirit takes when it leaves the body”.
(Had written about it here – somewhere ….)

Or past lives:
https://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/s...3&postcount=20

…. Which doesn’t mean one cannot change …

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[sentient]

Originally Posted by ImthatIm

I was reminded of early on when I began meditating I had read somewhere,
"Pray to the White Eagle before meditation and it would help".
Well I was curious so I did. I was surprised because during my meditation I was kinda reprimanded or corrected.
I received a clear message."Don't search for the answers,the answers will come."
So from that point I quit trying to adopt things I read into any type of practice willy nilly without serious investigation and contemplation.
So I've attempted to follow a path that I see unfolding in front of me that has a certain pull not just a curiosity.
Also things that speak to me and pull me naturally.Through visions and dreams and a inner Heart knowing or a outer Spirit guidance.

This is good ...

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In reference to the bottom of post #631


"Chakra's".I have never been given anything of the Chakra's.
I was shown vortexes. One extending up from the Heart region and spinning like a tornado. Another extending down like an inverted tornado.


The Circle of Fire sounds Good to me.I Love the Pureness of Fire.
I imagine this is a meditative practice, but being inside a Circle of physical fire would purify too.

Tahca Uste Teachings Part 11 9mins. or so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UZ74HaroAM

There are 12 of these vids. but this one stuck out to me.
It dealt a bit with some of the topics discussed on this thread.
Plus it says Frog skins, which is a bonus.

Well this one stuck out to me also.
Tahca Uste Teachings Part 12 9 mins. or so also.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dExFCuAy3cQ

Trust Brings Freedom 1 of 210 mins. or so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uruUMICr6zU

I always appreciate hearing about Fire, Rock, Water, Air.

[sentient]

Originally Posted by ImthatIm

"Chakra's".I have never been given anything of the Chakra's.
I was shown vortexes. One extending up from the Heart region and spinning like a tornado. Another extending down like an inverted tornado.

Yeah, I know. It’s like I can read about Chakras and Kundalini ‘till cows come home’, but I’m still quite clueless, I just do not ‘get’ it. And I don’t think it is for me either – not as yet anyways ..
But mention “Energy Fields” and there is an instant knowing how … yet it might not be ‘right’ for others ---> ... v

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After the Reiki ’initiation’, I started doing this and I did find it empowering (because ‘stuff’ started happening a lot more frequently):
http://www.gnostic.org/meditations/m...tation3how.htm

But there definitely are 3 Centres within – Adyashanti talks about when he talks about 3 aspects or levels of awakening: Head, Heart & Gut … 0:00 to 15:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxraQ7sELfU

Except he got the “Shamanic” bit wrong, because he really is still seeing “shamanic” with the Western mind-map imagination or with a filter of the Western ‘psychological self’ (ego).

But what I have described as ‘nondual on the horizontal level’ (& the first step on the ‘spiritual/vertical), is what Adyashanti calls ‘Awakening on the level of the Heart’. That is when one can have “Silent Communication or Communion” or “One Spirit” experience. (Common among traditional indig. people).
And I wouldn’t trust any Elder or “Guru” who has not had this ‘awakening’.

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I suppose it was a bit cold or unsensitive for me having said:
“All the departed are just as dumb as they were in life, so I do not understand why “spiritualists” (Spiritual Church) makes such a fuss about them”.
But then again it is true, some souls do awake to Greater Reality at death, but in general souls can be just as dualistic and egotistical as in life.

If one is aware of “spirit-doubles” – it is not that easy to tell whether a ‘visitation’ is from a person who is alive or departed. I am not sure, but I assume this to be the reason behind the shamanic classification dividing Reality into Upper, Middle and Below Worlds.
There is a subtle vibrational difference.

And again – if one is aware of “spirit-doubles” – communication with the departed in shamanic cultures is seen as normal, nothing ‘special’ as it is seen through the Western lens, so why all the fuss?
Went on this website:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ldVUKY0Onc

She sounds genuine to me and is providing service of solace for people who are attached to their loved ones and want to keep this attachment going …
And yes, it is very captivating and fantastic, but it is no awareness shift from the small “I am” to “I AM” where all attachments need to be dissolved.

Originally Posted by ImthatIm

The Circle of Fire sounds Good to me.I Love the Pureness of Fire.
I imagine this is a meditative practice, but being inside a Circle of physical fire would purify too.

The Ring of Fire:
From Vedic times, fire has been an essential ritual element. The outer circle of the mandala is often explained as a ring of fire, depicted by stylized scrollwork meant to represent flames.

https://studybuddhism.com/media/W1si...158245fed164ec

All Tantric Deities are depicted within a Circle of Fire:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...om_Thangka.jpg

No doubt it means the “Inner Fire” – but which then becomes reflected and is seen as Clear Light / Luminousity of one’s Energy Field.

(All of the above is just my view based on my experience …)

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