Eckhart Tolle

[muffin]

Originally Posted by Shivani Devi

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You know...the end of that headlong freefall into the Abyss...

Good afternoon Shivani Devi

I found it easier to sit on the edge and slide feet first in.

You will never know what you'll hit your head on

[God-Like]

Originally Posted by ajay00

Well, for me , it was a matter of experiential understanding. I was never much into scriptures in the beginning.

The fact that you stated it is in the scriptures and not because you directly experienced it in meditation, proved to me that much of this is actually all theoretical to you, and not an actual or practical experience.

All true knowledge originates in experience.

No .. All I said is that it is written in the scriptures .

You mentioned bliss and peace . I simply said anyone can say that .

Just because I said that the internet is rife with what S.R. is like, doesn't equate to myself not realizing what I have.

You have come to the wrong conclusion .

You couldn't be more wrong .

I told you that prior to realization and post realization I hadn't even heard of duality and non duality ..

I haven't studied scriptures or studied any teachers but through my realizations and experiences I know what self refers too, i know what mind refers too and I know what attachment is and isnt .

I have even given examples of the differences between self identification and attachments with various people reflecting various levels of self association but it doesn't seem to of made any difference whatsoever ..

I looked up krishna, he killed demons and had wives . He didn't love the demons and kill his loved ones did he .

He has to have a self identity in reflection to his morales and virtues and his actions . These are attachments .

You can't have a judgement where one self identifies demons as needing to be killed without forming a belief .

All you need to do is compare Ramana absorbed within Self with no self beliefs or attachments and compare that with a peep that is standing on stage teaching or running around killing demons .

It's that straightforward .







x daz x

[God-Like]

Originally Posted by janielee

That's because your experiment shows a clear lack of comprehension as to what awareness is - yours is called corruption of insight - no purity in either experience, sight or recognition

And that experiment is bogus and a cheap trick. Something you would expect of a magician on TV - cheap and misleading and appropriate only for the gullible and those not experienced in spirituality themselves.

JL

You really don't understand what I am talking about . All your doing is showing your hand again .

Please go away JL . Please stop with your agenda .

Can you please respectfully not comment on my posts, your like a mad woman possessed trying to put me down as always ..

This will be my last communication to you .


x daz x

[Shivani Devi]

Originally Posted by muffin

Good afternoon Shivani Devi

I found it easier to sit on the edge and slide feet first in.

You will never know what you'll hit your head on

I am sure Frederich Nietzsche would find comfort in those words.

"Battle not with monsters, lest you become a monster,
And if you gaze for long into the Abyss, The Abyss also gazes into you".

Just watch it happen.

*who has got the popcorn? I want some please.

[muffin]

Originally Posted by God-Like

I agree, hindsight explains so much at times .


x daz x

Good afternoon daz

That a bit of a bug bear one,

The warning came after the fact,
I ask why didn't you give it to me sooner.
My better half,"you didn't ask"
well it would have been nice to know before hand.
My better half, I'm letting you know now
Thanks

[God-Like]

Originally Posted by muffin

Good afternoon daz

That a bit of a bug bear one,

The warning came after the fact,
I ask why didn't you give it to me sooner.
My better half,"you didn't ask"
well it would have been nice to know before hand.
My better half, I'm letting you know now
Thanks

haha ..

have a good day Muffin Man, stay out of trouble if you can


x daz x

[muffin]

Originally Posted by Shivani Devi

I am sure Frederich Nietzsche would find comfort in those words.

"Battle not with monsters, lest you become a monster,
And if you gaze for long into the Abyss, The Abyss also gazes into you".

Just watch it happen.

*who has got the popcorn? I want some please.

That was the only way forward or I would be still sitting on my hands

[muffin]

Originally Posted by God-Like

haha ..

have a good day Muffin Man, stay out of trouble if you can


x daz x

Thanks daz

Don't think much of our chances, we travel hand in hand

Have fun and enjoy the rest of your day

[lomax]

Originally Posted by God-Like

We have been talking about bliss and peace ..

Please explain to me where that fits in with what you have said ..

You said ''Bliss and peace is a just the transition from point A to point B''.

So where is the bliss and peace in between being sober and being drunk?


x daz x

You spoked about peace and bliss.
Do you know what are they?

And no i'm not talking about the human reaction to bliss and peace.What you consider as peace and bliss,is your own reaction to what they are.

I was talking about the emotional factor of how our bodies react to forces and frequencies.You need the feeling of bliss to remind you that you're in bliss.
After sometime,the bliss is still there,but you can't feel it anymore.So what's happen then?Are you into bliss but you can't experience it?The bliss faded away?

That's why i gave this example.

So how can you experience bliss when you're into it?You don't.

You experience the transition between non-bliss to bliss.(a-b).

All this stuff we're talking about are human made constructs.We gave the name ''bliss'' to something and we think that we know what bliss is.
Remove the name,and you're looking to something that you can only experience it.Words are incapable to describe it,cause they're just pointers for the consious mind and nothing more.

So,what is bliss and peace outside of us?What are they and where do they exist?

Originally Posted by God-Like

You really don't understand what I am talking about . All your doing is showing your hand again .

Please go away JL . Please stop with your agenda .

Can you please respectfully not comment on my posts, your like a mad woman possessed trying to put me down as always ..

This will be my last communication to you .


x daz x

Thanks for the very nice compliments! I mean, you haven't shown anyone anything and people who disagree with you are all wrong [apparently everyone in this thread except Greenslade], and now I am called "mad" and "possessed"? Great defence!

What agenda? An agenda to respond to your points and ask YOU how YOU have come to the conclusions that you are positive are correct, when they contradict all major spiritual teachers, including dear Eckhart Tolle? Whoah how naughty, right, God-Like?!

And way to go on admitting how your Ramana Maharsi example was way off tangent and misrepresented him and his situation.

As to showing my hand, yes here it is - hands and all What a hand...lol

JL

PS I'll respond when I wish to - feel free to exit this thread which was created to ask how helpful Tolle's teachings have been in peoples' lives instead of hearing about fringe conspiracy theorists and jealousy of Tolle's well deserved success because he resonates in heart/minds