Freedom - what does it entail?

Originally Posted by andrew g

Yes, that pretty much resonates with me, though I think the need to know and need to control continues to be released even after the nature of 'I' has been seen.

forgive yourself for ever having believed in something like "the need to control" or "the need to release it"

or even believing in having seen the nature of "I"

life is much simpler than any of that

Originally Posted by din

That's a great idea, let's eat while the other's talk!

Good think'n.

Ya know it's our fifth anniversary- that means wood.

[andrew g]

Originally Posted by din

forgive yourself for ever having believed in something like "the need to control" or "the need to release it"

or even believing in having seen the nature of "I"

life is much simpler than any of that

There aint nothing to forgive right now din. Maybe there will be tomorrow.

Are you sure life is much simpler than any of that?

Originally Posted by din

forgive yourself for ever having believed in something like "the need to control" or "the need to release it"

or even believing in having seen the nature of "I"

life is much simpler than any of that

(three hail mary's for andrew)

Originally Posted by Lisa

Good think'n.

Ya know it's our fifth anniversary- that means wood.

Grrrrreat!

I have a reason to go out drinking!

Originally Posted by andrew g

There aint nothing to forgive right now din. Maybe there will be tomorrow.

Are you sure life is much simpler than any of that?

"Become totally empty,

Let your heart be at peace."

also

"Give up sainthood,

renounce wisdom,

and it will be a hundred times better for everyone"

the last one's for Tzu.

[andrew g]

Originally Posted by din

also



the last one's for Tzu.

Are you sure there is one to 'become' or 'let'?

[sound]

I might as well get in on it ... got nothing to lose lol

Originally Posted by din

also



the last one's for Tzu.

After renouncing your wisdom din, are you sure you are equipped to decide what is best for Tzu?

[hybrid]

Originally Posted by andrew g

I guess the reason is, our life does depend on it! When there is no more person we no longer 'have' a life.

you've never heard of transpersonal life?


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Hi guys:

I wanted to say hi. I see you guys keep shaking the waters between simplicity and variety.

Hope everybody is OK and wish all of you happy holidays. I don't know when and if I'll post something else in the near future, but who knows.

Andrew, I didn't read too much but you seem to keep evolving. Keep it up with your spiritual growing. Same for others ...

Andrew, being in Spain, Barcelona 5, Real Madrid 0. What a game!

Later,

All the love,

Claudio