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Old 17-07-2023, 02:33 PM
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The Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds are designed to be areas of opposites …
Designed to also show opposites and observe opposites and to choose them. It is all about choice ... after learning. We each create our own reality of positive or negative reality before learning do we not. We have the power (ability) to change them.
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Old 17-07-2023, 03:19 PM
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lemex …

We have the power to change our choices … yes. That's free will.

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Old 18-07-2023, 01:10 PM
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7-18-23 …

The greatest set of laws under which we must travel and ultimately learn … in these Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds … are the precepts of the Universal Mind. The mind as a tool or mechanism … coupled with the emotions as gasoline feeds a fire … has brought everything one can experience into the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds and will continue to do so for as long as they exist.

These precepts seem to ask three things … to learn what they are … to work in harmony with them … and to accept all responsibility in doing so.

The sub-regulations under these are what makes the path. Each individual has the right to learn at their own pace and to advance or decline as a result. Others clearly prevail upon you … but once again we can return to the prime dictum … it’s not what happens to you but how you react to it. Societies, cultures, planets, gravitational pulls, media, relationships … all pull the individual one way or another … stacking up karmic implications … simple action / reaction or cause / effect … that can follow one for centuries … and longer.

Each and every one of us are generators … transformers … doers … workhorses … for our own lives. We compose our lifetimes by our reactions to the daily events in our lives … coupled with what others impose upon us and our resultant reactions. When “bad things happen to good people” … and vice versa … these reflect the resolution of past karmic implications … and trust me if you will … we each have a very long list of such aspects to resolve … and few of them are pleasant. Many times … when undergoing long periods of rather unpleasant times and situations … we must try to get through them as best we can and realize that … somewhere a debt has been incurred and these are the balancing actions. This rarely makes it better … but how one goes through such times is often the key … and regularly the most difficult to contend with. Going through struggles or pains is rarely easy. We do the best we can.

Complicating all of this is that we are constantly surrounded by varying levels of understanding and ability … from newbies to old timers … the unaware to the aware. The “old” topics and systems are constantly revised to sound “new” … and each individual makes their own discoveries in and of their own time. Words are changed … concepts are spun off into tangents … word bouquets are arranged to make them all sound so … good … so … believable.

And we try them all.

This will continue to go on and on and on … seeming forever. A very slow and exceptional discovery comes about as one realizes the tangents … the detours … the mental drifts that are brought tour attention by the various ways and means … realizing where they lead … coming to the conclusion that questions often just bring more questions … and one slowly settles into unveiling the foundational or overall guidelines and begins to live from those. They pertain to all the tangents … bringing the many into one … or at least trying to unify the many, many departures and wanderings into the varied cohesive building blocks.

Many features and factors work against this discovery … but each individual has the perfect right to learn … and to grow … if one allows themselves to do so.

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Old 19-07-2023, 01:30 PM
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7-19-23 …

Slowly … consciousness is understood to be what it is. Consciousness is not necessarily a “thing” … but is more of an ocean of possibilities … potential … options … a formless atmosphere … not to be confused with the atmosphere that surrounds this planet … but a massive plastic creation in and of itself … and it is the fact that Soul Itself was designed to be the focal point … the consolidator … the individual fabricator with each individual lifetime … coupled with those very lofty entities that do the same on a cosmic or universal level … granted that status because they have proven themselves capable.

In a sense … consciousness can be considered to be a fog of atoms … a mist of pre-atoms … if you will … beyond microscopic … yet to be brought together into any form … which is the designated task of Soul Itself. We take out of the Whole of Consciousness … the “oneness” of consciousness … as we choose … repetition forms habits … and subsequent state of consciousness from and within which we live … by choice … these choices proving to be quite tough to later overcome … giving rise to the belief that we really do not have “free will” when it is that habits are indeed … habits … brought with us each incarnation … gaining in strength each time we practice them.

How can you define / describe a “life essence.” I haven’t the words.

Consciousness is our building materials … and we set about crafting each lifetime via our preferences. We compose our homestead … from landscape to structure … from shack to mansion … then the walls and rooms … the windows … the attics and basements … the decor … right down to the books on the shelves and the pictures on the walls … reminding us of our primal points of view. Consciousness is the orchestra … and we are the conductor.

We put into … and take out of this as we wish … and all Life asks … or requires … is that we accept responsibility for each and every action … or cause.

Since mind colors and sets our preferences established by our choices … and since mind is an exceptionally habitual contrivance … we tend to stay within very narrow parameters from lifetime to lifetime … tending not to change much save during times of personal upheaval … asked up against a wall … and making choices ben then … mostly for survival … and the in turn will form now tangents and patterns from which to live.

Each choice deepens or begins a new bias. The true value lies in what one does with either triumph or defeat … or again … how one reacts to the experience. One gains greater harmony by working with natural law … of growth … of benefit … of capability of the Whole as the Whole … while recognizing that you are a working aspect of the Whole as a single drop works in the ocean. Though this may suggest that each individual and even Soul Itself is a rather insignificant aspect of the Whole … as each gains in understanding and the ability to work with Life … it gains in power and usefulness … since the Core Creator God gives “life” to Soul Itself … and Soul Itself gives “life” to all else. The more knowing this individual Soul is … the more useful It is to Life.

Many try to find shortcuts … or quick fixes … the magic wand that will bring instant gratification. Presumed status or wealth or position can rarely be held for long because it has not been earned. Without a doubt … Soul Itself … within the bodies of the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds … earns each and every step. There are no freebies. automatic advancements, sidesteps, or declared promotions. Everything is learned within each lifetime according to level, ability, and interest … and test results or most often carried from one lifetime to the next … to start with the proverbial “clean slate” … and see just how deeply one has learned the previous systems. An easy example is the recovered alcoholic standing firm and resolute in one lifetime will often be born into a family that deals with alcoholism in one way or another … family members imbibing freely … and can that Soul hold against such temptations.

Obviously … all lessons *will* be learned … durably … and tested time and again.

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Old 19-07-2023, 02:15 PM
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What a good explanation of Consciosness.
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Old 20-07-2023, 12:46 PM
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7-20-23 …

It slowly becomes apparent that we get only what we give … and by giving … it is the thoughts and emotions we put forth … or give … to Life … that manipulates the rudder of our lifetime … thus leading to the old adage that it is better to give than to receive. This too can be broadened into … it is better to serve / assist than to selfishly accumulate / operate. There is a maxim dealing with balance … a leveling … an equalizing … and no one … even the proverbial Masters while living within these Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds for whatever purpose … is subject to these directives.

There are eventually many, many lifetimes were one gives everything to everybody … even to physical exhaustion or death … but one slowly learns that the world is filled with those who will gladly take from those who indiscriminately give. To give to one who abuses this giving love benefits no one. The giver wastes the effort … and the receiver places no value or appreciation for the gift. Discretion is a hard lesson to learn … and eventually one begins to give simple kindness to all … which can occasionally vacillate … and then give a more focused, warmer love to those who can accept and recognize such offerings … and will hopefully return the same to at least an acceptable degree.

This often leads to a decided neutrality within life … and the decision to deviate to either side … for or against … warmer, neutral, or cooler … is a choice the individual will knowingly make … clarified by experience.

By working with consciousness … one begins to work with the building blocks of the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds. One no longer needs specifics or extravagancies to please. You design what will bring contentment … and move on. If you know how to make money … you do not have to stack up massive piles in order to feel satisfied … you can apply the tactics when it is necessary. How much you need depends on contentment. An old axiom … the downfall of the working man lies in the poverty of his desires … i.e. … if you want to gather more and more goodies for the pleasure and status … you’d better work yourself hard.

Certainly … there are many lifetimes spent in being born into a wealthy family. Such lifetimes carry their own lessons. What do you *do* … with wealth. If you work hard to find contentment … and then are born into a wealthy family … consider the lessons to be faced. We all hav done this … and many still have them in front of them.

Within consciousness … thought most often turns outward … expressed towards the external … whether accumulation or control. Since the natural tendency of life is to evolve … the desire for material goodies naturally grows … nudging the individual to want more and more where just a few would suffice.

When one turns their thoughts towards discovering the principles behind it all … the heart of things … the spirit of things … one more easily takes charge of them. One advances by using building blocks rather than scattered bricks. One slowly learns that the spirit of the thing is the thought and feeling behind it … the recognized essence … the germ of the later manifestation. The subsequent appearance is simply the result of the previous inner effort … thought and feeling … for as long as it takes to bring about the preferred results … for Self … for the Whole … or for both.

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Old 20-07-2023, 06:51 PM
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The giver wastes the effort … and the receiver places no value or appreciation for the gift.
Yet even the taker (receiver) is a giver. What one puts out into the world giving to it. Taking gives as well. I am thinking of duality. Everything we do gives. A pastor once told me, don't be concerned with my value of appreciation.
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Old 20-07-2023, 07:12 PM
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. A pastor once told me, don't be concerned with my value of appreciation.

Lemex,

Thank you. There is so much wisdom in those simple words. To give is to perceive need and nothing less. A mother does not stop giving. Anonymous donors do not seek recognition.
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Old 21-07-2023, 12:53 PM
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7-21-23 …

Once again … an old axiom … one must learn to give beauty for atrocity … joy for sorrow.

In other words … to get beyond what and where you are … you must begin to think and feel towards its opposite. The new must replace the old. The “old” can rarely just be eradicated without leaving a void … which *will* be filled … and more often than not … not with something that will be to your benefit … so … choose its replacement … and advance towards its practice.

If you wish to eliminate ear … concentrate on courage. If you wish to eliminate lack … concentrate on abundance. If you wish to eliminate disease … concentrate on health.

Always concentrate on the preferred ideal. Make it real … make it believable … by using well-chosen words and phrases. Yes … they will not at the moment realistically apply to the habitual you … but … they will in time … as you lead yourself into the ideal you design.

These practices have been promoted by various systems for a long time. They are not new. They are often given “new” names and promoted as a “new” discovery. The principles are as old as time.

As stated elsewhere … one of the great strains on all of this is when one must endure a karmic implication no matter what the thoughts are. Balance *will* be brought about. If one is here to balance a set of conditions by undergoing physical or emotional hardships … that *will* be concluded no matter the viewpoint held … the difference lies in how one will endure … how one reacts to these situations.

This is NOT … easy … nor pleasant. The struggles can often go on forever. LIFE does not ask you to suffer for another unless you knowingly and willingly do so. LIFE does not ask you to die for another but there are many lessons in doing so … and there is often a balance to be gained. If one has “died for another” in a previous life … the balancing situation will often be lived.

We do the best that we can at the time … knowing that attitude towards … is important.

There are long periods when we cannot maintain a focus … even longer when we are just beginning. It is practice that tips the scale … and this sometimes can take a while. One learns that the habitual mind does not like change … not at all … and will often be incredibly stubborn. Again … it often helps if you trick or con or manipulate the mind into becoming interested in where you wish it to go. After all … this is *your* mind … *your* preferences and habits … so *you* are the one to figure out how to trick / lead / manipulate / con your own mind into making other choices than what it has always preferred. It is often more than day-by-day … it is often moment-by-moment.

If you try … and fail … do it again. If you try and fail a hundred times … try again 101. Try a sideways approach … are an over-the-wall approach. Try to not get caught up in overcoming a pattern … but just imaginatively pretend that you already are doing the new ideal. Make it seem like a movie. Heck … tell your mind it IS a movie and you are just watching it. Do that for a week or two … and then see where you are.

Try to just adjust to whatever your mind tries to hand you. No matter its approach … try to lead it into a more advanced consideration … always having to do with the ideal. You can approach the same ideal from many different directions. Who knows …- pretty soon the mind may jump on board because … to it … its more of an amusement ride … and soon you are involved in that ride / ideal … and you can build from there.

Have a great weekend.

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Old 21-07-2023, 06:34 PM
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We have the power to change our choices … yes. That's free will.

I would define free will as the potential to willfully direct our focus or attention off of our programming and conditioning. To be free from it.
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