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Old 01-02-2022, 01:27 PM
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The word is Isness. There is no Duality and no non-Duality, there is just what IS and everything just IS and nothing more. It's where all the mind-chatter stops, there's no more 'imprinting' of what it is or isn't, or opposite to. It's a beautiful place to start and you can become aware of it.
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Old 01-02-2022, 03:12 PM
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Knowing God

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"If you know God, you don't know God."
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Yes I only have glimpses of God that too with lots of external help/aid. Knowing God 100% is not possible.
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Old 01-02-2022, 06:23 PM
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Thanks, I really appreciate it.
You're very welcome. It's when you perceive the Isness and drop the rest that it begins to make sense. So it's back to the quote from Jon Anderson - who was the vocalist from the band Yes -
"That all it is, Love is. It is."

Breath-taking simplicity.
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Yes I only have glimpses of God that too with lots of external help/aid. Knowing God 100% is not possible.
If you understand yourself as an aspect/fractal of God, you have all you need. You just need to separate - neti-neti style - Hitesh from God to discover yourself as God.
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Old 19-04-2022, 04:51 AM
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"That all it is, Love is. It is."
why call it love? and simple. when it is neither of these? As love is simply the opposite of guilt or some other negative frequency that opposes a positive one.
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Old 19-04-2022, 07:55 AM
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why call it love? and simple. when it is neither of these? As love is simply the opposite of guilt or some other negative frequency that opposes a positive one.
"That all it is, Love is. It is."

Everything beyond "Love is" is not Isness, is not Love but what you perceive Love to be. You perceive the opposites and so Duality is born.

What makes positive positive and what makes negative negative? So many have used those words, not one of them have been able to give me an answer.
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Old 19-04-2022, 06:59 PM
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why call it love? and simple. when it is neither of these? As love is simply the opposite of guilt or some other negative frequency that opposes a positive one.
This is considering love on an emotional level, which is the level of opposites - love vs hate, love vs fear. Such love is conditional.

There is a higher unconditional love which is the quality of Soul or Consciousness. This has no opposites, it simply radiates from within.

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Old 20-04-2022, 01:53 AM
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Everything beyond "Love is" is not Isness, is not Love but what you perceive Love to be.
I hope this is so.

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You perceive the opposites and so Duality is born.
How do I stop perceiving the opposites, when opposites / contrast is what makes perception/awareness even possible?

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What makes positive positive and what makes negative negative? So many have used those words, not one of them have been able to give me an answer.
Negative makes positive positive and positive makes negative negative.
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Old 20-04-2022, 02:16 AM
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This is considering love on an emotional level, which is the level of opposites - love vs hate, love vs fear. Such love is conditional.

There is a higher unconditional love which is the quality of Soul or Consciousness. This has no opposites, it simply radiates from within.

Peace
What is unconditional love?
and isnt the unconditionality of it a condition and part of a duality?
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Old 20-04-2022, 06:34 PM
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What is unconditional love?
Conditional love depends on certain conditions being met.

For example, I will love you if you do this or if you are a certain way.

Unconditional love makes no demands and has no expectations. It simply arises from within, it is a quality of our Soul or true nature.

The same goes for conditional happiness (I will be happy when I have got whatever) or conditional peace (I will be at peace when I have resolved this issue). True happiness and true peace arise from within irrespective of any conditions.

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and isnt the unconditionality of it a condition and part of a duality?
Why would the unconditionality be a condition? What does it depend on?

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