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Old 17-03-2012, 01:05 AM
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My definition is also made real by experience… Opinions should be based on experience, but some are inherited, whether from mom and dad or school or peers or the media or books.
Agreed wholeheartedly.

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… and i'm not sure how a 'realization' could exist without a person to have it.
That which ultimately realizes, the actual realizer, is pure consciousness, which is transcendent, not a person.

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In some way, opinions in the form of thoughts can change reality. Consensus reality is the way it is because of the collective opinion that it should be this way.
Indeed, though it takes collective consciousness to change the reality. See my web-pages: http://www.the-third-circle.com/better_world/ .

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For example people meditating upon water with love can change it's physical chemical composition, and projecting nastiness to another glass of water can change it's state as well. To me consciousness and quantum physics are interconnected and both a part of life, and therefore why separate them saying 'this is this, and that is that'. The only place that really separates them is in your mind, but not reality. (Though in your mind reality may conform to your opinion of what it should be, or seem to.)
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Old 17-03-2012, 01:37 AM
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Agreed wholeheartedly.


That which ultimately realizes, the actual realizer, is pure consciousness, which is transcendent, not a person.


Indeed, though it takes collective consciousness to change the reality. See my web-pages: http://www.the-third-circle.com/better_world/ .

Thanks for the link, will check it out after work.
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Old 17-03-2012, 09:04 AM
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Do you mean realize in the meaning of understanding the mind?
How many times do you need me to cite the dictionary definitions before you get that is what i mean by realization.
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Does such a realization actually creates reality?
me not on woo woo train at this section of my journey.
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Old 17-03-2012, 03:42 PM
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me not on woo woo train at this section of my journey.
Whatever works for you, works for you.
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