How to be free from desires?

[Gem]

Originally Posted by JustBe

When you live more with what is, you live more with all of you as you are. I live by this lovely saying.‘Be the change you wish to see’

I like to get away from the abstract, because we think we desire things, hot tantra sex, nice car, coffee and stuff, but we are imagining it as something that give us a feeling, so I like to stay with the feeling that is and let it change. I just do what's under my nose without thinking too much about future things. My saying is, if you take care of this moment the future will work itself out.

[Still_Waters]

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Originally Posted by FallingLeaves

.. if you are telling yourself that you don't desire things you most likely have the desire for THAT to be so (without even realizing what you've done) so you've killed your flower from the start.

I love your insightful point.

[Still_Waters]

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Originally Posted by Still_Waters

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The Sufi Mystic Hazrat Inayat Khan stated his insight into the subject of desirelessness:
"If you tell yourself that you do not desire anything, you go back !This whole creation is the result of desire. "

While I am very inclined to agree with the above saying from Hazrat Inayat Khan (which I posted previously), I thought that I would post another quote from the Sikh Mystic Kirpal Singh, whom I met personally when he was in NYC many years ago.

"What is God? Man minus desires." (Mystery of Death by Kirpal Singh, Page 88)

I can fully understand the point that Kirpal Singh is trying to make since my sense is that attunement to the expanded consciousness (God-consciousness) increases as mundane desires decrease.

[JustBe]

Originally Posted by Gem

I like to get away from the abstract, because we think we desire things, hot tantra sex, nice car, coffee and stuff, but we are imagining it as something that give us a feeling, so I like to stay with the feeling that is and let it change. I just do what's under my nose without thinking too much about future things. My saying is, if you take care of this moment the future will work itself out.

That fits exactly what I’m also aligned with. As a predominate feeler type, I know to sit in feeling, desires subside and life becomes the moment as it is. It’s kind of living reverse to most. Life happens, I meet it as it is. As I am. I prefer to get clear in my being, because I know desires and cravings are distractions away from clarity. I know clarity serves me far greater one with life around me, rather than holding on to feelings keeping me from myself in this way.

[JustBe]

Originally Posted by Still_Waters

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"What is God? Man minus desires." (Mystery of Death by Kirpal Singh, Page 88)
I can fully understand the point that Kirpal Singh is trying to make since my sense is that attunement to the expanded consciousness (God-consciousness) increases as mundane desires decrease.

Yes indeed, that’s a great explanation from your own sense of that quote.

When we let go fully, of everything, ( contained within self) people often ( before they’ve done so) perceive this ( through the person they believe they are, or identify as) as a ‘great loss’ of themselves or life itself, (they’ll never have what they seek) little do they ‘realise’ the expansion of self ( when emptiness/wholeness is reached) without the ‘feelings’ holding in and down those desires and wants, actually contain themselves and their life. ( stuck in their ruts) Without the feelings and desires, the unknown ( not identified to anything or anyone) is exactly the place, where expansion creates a more contented, connected life.

Living more present with what is, creating a life more aligned to your true self.

[Sir Neil]

I don’t think we CAN be free from desires. Desires are what keep us going forwards in life, especially the desire for ease and progress. If we didn’t have that we’d still be living in caveman days rubbing sticks together to make fire. Even the need to breathe is a desire; just one which is felt more keenly than others like the fast car, beautiful house, loving relationship or sizeable bank balance.

[JustBe]

Originally Posted by Sir Neil

I don’t think we CAN be free from desires. Desires are what keep us going forwards in life, especially the desire for ease and progress. If we didn’t have that we’d still be living in caveman days rubbing sticks together to make fire. Even the need to breathe is a desire; just one which is felt more keenly than others like the fast car, beautiful house, loving relationship or sizeable bank balance.

In my experience, I’ve found once I reached a place of peace and trust in the known and unknown, desire isn’t necessary to living with what is, as things are in each moment. But definitely the desire for more until I reached that place, showed me I was caught in separation in myself. Our spiritual evolvement opens up how ‘full immersion’ and living more fully in each moment, open and aware, naturally moves us toward the path that aligns with ease and progress. I don’t think I desire to breathe, more when I’m aware I’m living breathing vessell, it just does as it does. Who is the one leading that creation, you or your breathe? When I’m still and observing, without effort, my breathe just happens. I watch it without desire for it to be doing..

[Miss Hepburn]

Kralaro, Curious...Were you being eaten up by desires or something?
You know, making you miserable?

[Gem]

The desires come up, like I need to get more work because I want more money and I do not want to go broke - there is a fear, and every desire entails an aversion - but once I'm on that mission, I have an understanding which is like God helps those who help themselves, so I can do my best and just see what happens... I mean watch it as it happens. I don't chase desires, I simply make some fliers and do a letter-box drop, but it's not the results of the drop I'm looking for; it's what comes up in the process of doing the drop. Yes the reason for the drop is to get work, but attention to process unconcerned with outcome, because 'this' is the creation and nothing else exists. Once in the groove of that flow, there's no desire. However, getting distracted puts you off kilter, and desire and distraction are very, very similar things.

[kralaro]

Yeah Miss Hepburn,

I've a curious nature and as my thinking expanded i became curious about some experiences i've never had before. Fueled by my adamant nature and a sense of unfairness, the desires became like a constant itch. So whatever philosophies people may have, i wanted to be free from desires, i became free and i'm liking the freedom.

I do realize that my desires may have gone hidden in some corner of my mind, wanting to come back some day but my faith in Universe is ready for them.

Thanks for the care :)

PS I'm realizing that the random username i made here 12 years ago can be hard to type. So please feel free to change it to whatever you feel like if you decide so.