Where are the men?

[wolfgaze]

Originally Posted by Clover

Ever notice the cafeteria in the work place? You will see tables with groups of women. They share stories, gossip and laugh. What are the men doing? They take their lunches to their desk. Or if they choose to eat together they talk about sports or their weekend activites. Very simple. Very yes and no answers. Just an observation.

How dare you!!!



I also agree with Len's last comments there in his post....

[YS.]

I think the 'he' and 'she' in this twin flame journey are meant to be metaphors for the masculine and feminine within ourselves . The only part where there are two people involved is before ' the separation, which is needed to trigger. After that the focus and line of thought should be geared towards the internal process and not on the relationship/love story ( and yes, I've been guilty myself) . It doesn't give credit to this difficult journey and it keeps people lingering in the wrong phase and may cause unneccessary longer 'suffering'. With separation I mean the time that the 'twin' is really out of the picture 'gone' , physically not there , moved on, chose a different life path. The running/chasing is the battle you have within yourself with your masculine and feminine parts. The reunion is the balance you find within yourself. Which is HARD but...
It's dealing with two different things ; the heartbreak of the relationship AND the struggle of the journey within, which are not necessarily connected to each other. I think referring to 'the catalyst' as THE twin is deluding. " there's only one twin" , yes of course..there's only one YOU. I'm babbling I know...but I'm a women..:)

[YS.]

Can I add something to Len's last paragraph ? ( I'm going to need protective armour here..) I think that sometimes believing in the TF stages is lowering the self esteem and strength .... it's an excuse to give your power away.

Ok shoot me I'm wearing bulletproof here..

[BlueCat]

Originally Posted by lenvdb64

I speak as a man.
I speak as a man observing other men.
I do not speak for other men, and these are purely my observations.

My observations:
Most men are not Soul Aware or Self Aware.
As far as developing awareness on different levels, most men are not emotionally self-aware, but rather intellectually self-aware and work on the level of Logic and Reason rather than emotion.
I compare these levels of self-awareness to the Kabbalistic Tree of Life, where I use the terminology that their Hod spheres are more developed than their Netzach spheres.

Ideally we need to bring the areas of Emotion (Netzach) and Hod (Logic and Reason) into balance.

Most men are not spiritually aware and do not ascribe to the idea of spiritualising relationships to the level of Soulmates and Twin flames.

Men on this forum are not Most Men.

I myself do not believe that you are meant to "look for and find" your TF to marry and have kids with. Embarking on such a journey is a painful journey and it turns this forum into a "Broken Hearts Club - Woe is Me..." forum. I do not like to read on a daily basis how your "TF" ignored you today on the train or bus because he was talking to his wife.

To me that implies that there are many people here on this forum who need to balance some chakras and need to build up their own self esteem and become whole. Only YOU are responsible for your mental and emotional well being - not your TF. Learn to take care of your Self emotionally and mentally and make better choices.

That speaks the truth. Infact, society forge men's minds to give too much importance to reason, "what seems good now" and easier, no stronger emotions, for this they tend to think what they have externally (a less inflaming relationship with no much efforts , a good career, friends, being acceptable socially, etc..) but what they lack is being avare of their Soul and spiritualize instead. Most people believe their reality is external, while instead your inner self needs work and go more by heart reasons but always with a bit of logic. TFs struggle to balance these aspects. It's not a case if many people even with "perfect" lives, feel there is something lacking or that need to be fixed.
There are women that go by logic too much as men that have more "by heart" visions, of course.

[Frederick33]

Originally Posted by YS.

No honestly.. I just realized. As far a I know there are a very few men on this sub forum. Why is that? I think it's a pity, I would be very refreshing to see how men regard this ' connection' ( no offense to the male participants here, it's not that I find your contribution not worth while, on the contrary , I would like to see more! :)

well last time i looked I was a guy for sure

how ever I am a 50/50 male female energy united as one with HS
so consciousness forms a triangle shape

lower left and right corner (the base) male and female energies, top

HS sticking way up in the not incarnated realm

I am their for my own twin flame :-) and experience this love on my own

not always can switch it off to if it becomes just all a bit much

how ever that is not all I can be a girls best boy friend and at the same time best girl friend

my world is a pure reflected one so can reflect all you are , a pure reflection is you see you

makes me wonder where i than sit :-) well I experience it as me

but my HS 'knows' this and so reads heals and helps others be me being them

cool yes :-) well you can't buy it off the shelf took my two earth incarnated life's before this one to get there

I often joke about it . 'twin flames' any takers here I am jump on in its as cool as you are

or are not :-)

the love shared can be so amazing like being all one and sharing thoughts and feelings in side your self . yet how ever cool this is , what a healing reading tool feeling inside the 'other' where the problem sits

yup life is not only so worthwhile it is also amazing beyond many's wildest fantasies

not on this forum though lots of wild and amazing stuff :-)

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much love and light to all :-)

[Lucyan28]

"It's raining men, Aleluya!"

I had to sing it !

[BurningBush]

Originally Posted by YS.

So, the few men here ' work behind the scenes ' Understandable...going from the differences in communication between men and women.
A question to those men: what do you think of the labeling and stages in this twin flame process? Do you regard your connection according to those labels/stages ( separation /runner/chaser/reunion etc) or do you see/experience it differently ?

Labels are bad because they take the focus off of what matters, the latter of which could be described in many different ways.

[Lucyan28]

Originally Posted by BurningBush

Labels are bad because they take the focus off of what matters, the latter of which could be described in many different ways.

Labels are not bad, otherwise everything would be called Stuff...

Labels are terrific, they are variable references which represent an object or an idea.

Rain is a good thing.

[BurningBush]

Originally Posted by Lucyan28

Labels are not bad, otherwise everything would be called Stuff...

Labels are terrific, they are variable references which represent an object or an idea.

Rain is a good thing.

Well, I guess I'd say that labels are neutral. But confusing a thing for its label or overemphasizing a label (versus the thing) are not good whether we're talking about TFs or anything. Those actions open the door for programming rather than authenticity and I would consider them to be fundamental spiritual problems.

[Lucyan28]

Originally Posted by BurningBush

Well, I guess I'd say that labels are neutral. But confusing a thing for its label or overemphasizing a label (versus the thing) are not good whether we're talking about TFs or anything. Those actions open the door for programming rather than authenticity and I would consider them to be fundamental spiritual problems.

Indeed, it depends on the beholder who use the labels, they could be either constructive or destructive for the person.

Labels are only references to objects, but when we see deep inside the object, we discover that it provides mystery meanings, all of them attached to the subjects perception, which is always subjective, especially in these kind of love topics and connections.

So I'm agree with you, I have seen a lot of folks here that struggle while trying to name TF or SC or Karmic Connection to the people they know, I also joined them in the crazy train of labeling for a while, but then I discovered that labeling is useful at some point, but after we reach that point the label looses its importance.

So it doesn't matter if we call them SC, TF, near Tf, fake Tf, Twin Ray, Karmic connection, Twin Lion, Twinky wonder, etc... at the end the best label would be: "people who I love".