Is consciousness the real illusion

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

Exactly! I've exp'd Nothingness,

It's a brain-grinder for sure but 'Nothing' is 'something'. In terms of non-Duality it's a complete 'no thing' in that there are no 'objects' of consciousness or awareness, there is just awareness but that doesn't do it any justice.

The question is though, if you had the choice to stay 'there' or come back 'here'? And come 'back' with that understanding?

[Ewwerrin]

Originally Posted by Greenslade

The question is though, if you had the choice to stay 'there' or come back 'here'? And come 'back' with that understanding?

THIS is the braingrinder. Because, just because you have the freedom to stay there, and just because YOU CHOOSE to extend back into time and space... Does NOT mean that your choice was activated BY YOU. NOR CAUSED BY YOU!

I have been trying to explain this for so long and using so many different words... But we need more people with the nothingness or Source or Prime Radiant Consciousness experiences. So that we can look at the time crystal from more than just one point of view.

[Ewwerrin]

And knowing that non existence doesnt exist, helps everyone move forward aswell. To infinity and beyond. So that we can finally start investigating nonduality, without feeling the need to disagree WITH OURSELVES.

[movingalways]

Originally Posted by Ewwerrin

THIS is the braingrinder. Because, just because you have the freedom to stay there, and just because YOU CHOOSE to extend back into time and space... Does NOT mean that your choice was activated BY YOU. NOR CAUSED BY YOU!

I have been trying to explain this for so long and using so many different words... But we need more people with the nothingness or Source or Prime Radiant Consciousness experiences. So that we can look at the time crystal from more than just one point of view.

It is both logically and intuitively correct to assert that what is caused to be is not activated by what is called 'the ego' (the personal sense of self) that instead, everything that is caused to be is caused of the one Source or Consciousness, including the thought 'ego' or 'personal sense of self'.

When the one Source or Consciousness of All Things looks at any one thing such as 'the time crystal' or 'a dog' or 'a Cherokee Jeep' (as if it is zooming in on itself or sensing itself) it temporarily views itself as a three-dimensional object as if it has extended Itself but of course, because there is no actual distance between the Observer and the Observed, the appearance of an extension (or a duality) is an illusion (is not true).

Because the One Source of all finite objects cannot understand any one of Its finite objects (the eye cannot see itself, the knife cannot cut itself) when It tries, suffering is always the result. This is why we will never be able to "start investigating nonduality".

Originally Posted by Ewwerrin

NOR CAUSED BY YOU

'I' don't know who 'I' am is, frankly, and I've never really known. 'I' use 'I' for convenience but the more 'I' think about it the more 'I' think that 'I' never really existed in the first place.

As you said -
"Source or Prime Radiant Consciousness experiences"
What's one of those? I've been to a place that's beyond experience, does that count? I guess whoever came up with that title didn't tell you that it's the ego that experiences, and the experiencer and the experience are one and the same.

As you said -
"And knowing that non existence doesn't exist, helps everyone move forward as well."
I know that but 'knowing' is the wrong word because it's not a mind process.

[Ewwerrin]

Originally Posted by movingalways

This is why we will never be able to "start investigating nonduality".

Say that, when you realise that non-existence doesn't exist.

[Ewwerrin]

Originally Posted by Greenslade

'I' don't ...
... process.

This is good. My question is offtopic so I pmed it.

[Unseeking Seeker]

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

I've exp'd Nothingness, the Void, Blackness like a vacuum, No one there...but STILL, lol..it wasn't 'nothing'. There was, however, Pure Awareness present.

The inky black vibrant void! I’ve experienced this a few times but in my view, it’s not a singularity in the true sense (like Samadhi), since we can communicate therein with a higher being or let’s say God. Still two, not one. Just my personal view.

[movingalways]

Originally Posted by Ewwerrin

Say that, when you realise that non-existence doesn't exist.

Those words are meaningless when referring to what you call Pure Radiant Consciousness as are all words. Why? Because Pure Rafiant Consciousness shines in and through every form the eye sees, the mouth speaks and the fingers type.

You are pursuing the light with darkness. As does everyone until they realize light forms thought, not the other way around.

Originally Posted by movingalways

As does everyone until they realize light forms thought, not the other way around.

The mind forms thought, the unconscious creates it.