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Old 19-04-2015, 06:23 PM
Gemcrusader Gemcrusader is offline
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U know, in the end its more or less spiritual entertainment. And an entertainer earns quite some money. In the end u all have to do it urself. No amount of books is going to make u wiser. Because wisdom is only aquired trough action.
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Old 19-04-2015, 06:30 PM
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Because wisdom is only aquired trough action.
And a Buddhist would say it is acquired through non-action.
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Old 19-04-2015, 06:39 PM
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And a Buddhist would say it is acquired through non-action.

Well if u dont know what to do that is. If u have obtained wisdom trough nonaction. That means at some point u have to bring it into practice. So if that action aquires not doing anything, then u still have to do something in mind. Namely, stopping urself from doing. That in it self is action as well. When the first intention is to do something that is not wise that is. And that is usually the case unless ur a zombie.
Thus i see stopping urself from acting is an action as well.

Though acquiring wisdom and being wise are two different things. Being wise can be non-action or not... But i wasnt talking to a buddhist, lol.
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Old 19-04-2015, 06:42 PM
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So if that action acquires not doing anything,
then u still have to do something in mind.
Yes.
You certainly do.
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Old 19-04-2015, 07:03 PM
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And why is that? Where do u get that information from? U say in post 11 otherwise. This sounds contradicting.

Maybe we just aren't there yet.
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Old 20-04-2015, 02:50 AM
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There is no laws that a Guru should hold, if you except a Guru to do what you think he or she should do, then you are not seeing the Guru, you are looking at the mind body organism of that Guru. A Guru can have a thousand Rolls Royce's, to the Guru there nothing by toys, the Guru isn't here to fill our ideas of how we believe he or she should act, the Guru is just simply living the life of the mind body organism, its nothing to do with the Guru or Enlightened one. When one is Enlightened there is no wrong or right, this belief is of dualism, the Enlightened one is of non-dualism.
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Old 20-04-2015, 04:37 AM
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There are things realized people do not do, or ways to get an idea about it.

It is also the poor man's enlightenment that everything goes because everything is non-dual or pure consciousness or awareness etc.

People do not reach enlightenment by constantly telling themselves we do not exist in duality, and trying to not think about the boundaries in space between themselves and a tomato for example. Even if that is a truth at the highest level, we do not reach there that way. At the level of no-realization, it is still relevant to judge things as we normally do. Any true guru would allow, and even encourage others to judge him or her for themselves,or examine and evaluate.
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Old 20-04-2015, 06:24 AM
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It really is no major amount, if it is true.

But he is on the "rich man’s list"! Is that true?

I'm no hunter.

Tolle is a scholar and a smart man. I have stated earlier that it is not hard for a man like him to make money. Why so much interest in his money he earned from writing good books, and which he may be using to support philanthropic pursuits as well !

Could it be a deep-rooted envy !
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Old 20-04-2015, 06:50 AM
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Tolle is a scholar and a smart man. I have stated earlier that it is not hard for a man like him to make money. Why so much interest in his money he earned from writing good books, and which he may be using to support philanthropic pursuits as well !

Could it be a deep-rooted envy !
Yes I think your right, a deep rooted envy, it seems that the ones who seem to be envious are the ones who are not awake, if you are not awake how can you judge a man like Tolle ?.
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Old 20-04-2015, 07:40 AM
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Yes I think your right, a deep rooted envy, it seems that the ones who seem to be envious are the ones who are not awake, if you are not awake how can you judge a man like Tolle ?.

I dont think it,s envy with Free, I feel he expects to much from others and when they dont fill his expectations he reacts. Expect nothing from others and then you are not disappointed if they dont fit into your idea of whats right or wrong. Eckharts books do nothing for me but I enjoy his TV, he,s a special person and gives comfort to millions all over the world.
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