I don't want to come back - do you?

[andrew g]

Originally Posted by God-Like

Yes as mentioned In other posts, It can be referred to as purifying, filtering, siphoning??

What i am trying to bring across as you have gathered by your response, as to what Is love..

And within certain states we seem to lose attachment to what we thought was love...

When an Individual has tasted Honey - will he/she then settle for Marmite?

x daz x

I actually think that all individuals are constantly looking for the honey in many many different ways, it just so happens that the very act of looking takes us away from it. Unfortunately letting go of the looking is easier said than done.

[God-Like]

Originally Posted by 7luminaries

So then...if & when you find a path to the stillness, why would you turn away? I find that I cannot...my soul cleaves to it.

Yes absolutely 7l ..

How does one settle for marmite..

You can try.

You can even pretend to like It..

But It's not the same anymore..

There Is no coming back..not really..Why would anyone want to?

Did meher baba taste the love of god and then settle for loving his clothes or his donkey? (If he had a donkey)?

x daz x

[God-Like]

Originally Posted by andrew g

I actually think that all individuals are constantly looking for the honey in many many different ways, it just so happens that the very act of looking takes us away from it. Unfortunately letting go of the looking is easier said than done.

Yes I agree..

The moment can arise at a blink of an eye..tho

It can be spontaneous..or the realization can come In with the tide..

You can almost watch It and feel coming closer...

x daz x

[andrew g]

Originally Posted by God-Like

Yes I agree..

The moment can arise at a blink of an eye..tho

It can be spontaneous..or the realization can come In with the tide..

You can almost watch It and feel coming closer...

x daz x

Yeah. So Im not sure anyone is ever settling for marmite, its more a case of thats what individuals have got BECAUSE we are compelled to look for honey. The moment that we stop looking, the marmite becomes honey (like a strange kind of alchemy!)

[7luminaries]

Originally Posted by God-Like

Yes absolutely 7l ..

How does one settle for marmite..

You can try.

You can even pretend to like It..

But It's not the same anymore..

There Is no coming back..not really..Why would anyone want to?

x daz x

Yes...
Everytime your awareness is raised...you come to a new place, and you can't go home again. Of course you can, but as you say, it's never the same. When your spiritual awareness is raised, it seems it's the same...but not everyone will share this experience in the same way...and those who do are not always at liberty to speak of it (like the monks).

So we have to find our own way, yet at the same time knowing that we're not alone. Help is on the way, so to speak...we're just riding the first crest...uh oh...am I the only one that can swim? Luckily I think the others can fly

The main thing I have realised is that to deny the path to the stillness is to cut out your heart, and that's bad (LOL...really?).
Believe it or not I actually fought this lesson for some time...because it meant acknowledging my fears -- plus total surrender and vulnerability. I am not always the fastest learner in the spirit realm...LOL...sometimes I am a bit slow...but every step brings something new.

[7luminaries]

Originally Posted by andrew g

Yeah. So Im not sure anyone is ever settling for marmite, its more a case of thats what individuals have got BECAUSE we are compelled to look for honey. The moment that we stop looking, the marmite becomes honey (like a strange kind of alchemy!)

Andrew, just to clarify, the marmite is not transformed. What is transformed is YOU.

Your awareness is transformed...and when you are looking inward instead of outward, then you realise the honey is there as well.
But you were unable to see it because you were in a different place, so to speak.
And now, you can see.
:)

[andrew g]

Originally Posted by 7luminaries

Andrew, just to clarify, the marmite is not transformed. What is transformed is YOU.

Your awareness is transformed...and when you are looking inward instead of outward, then you realise the honey is there as well.
But you were unable to see it because you were in a different place, so to speak.
And now, you can see.
:)

I see it a little differently. I would say that we always are, always have been Love. Yet its as we are wearing a costume or disguise, which when dropped, reveals us for who and what we are. So its not so much that WE are transformed, its a case of just getting naked hehe.

The looking inside is helpful, but even that is dropped in the end. All looking is dropped and at that moment the outer and the inner are one.

[7luminaries]

Originally Posted by andrew g

I see it a little differently. I would say that we always are, always have been Love. Yet its as we are wearing a costume or disguise, which when dropped, reveals us for who and what we are. So its not so much that WE are transformed, its a case of just getting naked hehe.

The looking inside is helpful, but even that is dropped in the end. All looking is dropped and at that moment the outer and the inner are one.

Here I think you & I mean the same. Finding the honey within is transformation. But part of that is realising what the honey is not. And that is a matter of awareness. And the connection or path to the honey involves dissolving the illusion of separation. The inner and outer being one.

I think one is transformed, or else getting naked wouldn't be anything special...LOL...when we become aware, it's more that getting naked reveals the inner light or the truth of who we are.

[andrew g]

Originally Posted by 7luminaries

Here I think you & I mean the same. Finding the honey within is transformation. But part of that is realising what the honey is not. And that is a matter of awareness. And the connection or path to the honey involves dissolving the illusion of separation. The inner and outer being one.

I think one is transformed, or else getting naked wouldn't be anything special...LOL...when we become aware, it's more that getting naked reveals the inner light or the truth of who we are.

Yes, that resonates with me.

[Xan]

Originally Posted by God-Like

Within the silence I would say there was no Identity - no individuality.

When there Is consciousness of an experience be-ing had the Identity of the I becomes more apparent and comes to the fore and the silence In essence Is no longer silent because the thoughts have now contaminated it.

This is not my experience, daz. Within infinite silence "I" am the individual awareness of it and as it... without thought.


Xan