Help and advice urgently needed please!

[astralsuzy]

You are right. It does not hurt what you are doing. If I analysised it too much I do not think I would be able to ap. For me I would forgot all that and let it happen instead of thinking this and that. Everyone is different. You probably have no problem with it and it works for you.

[Jeff4freedom]

Yes...
I don't astral project any more....
And analyzing isn't conducive to Projecting
or Traveling...
which is my preference

But Analyzing
is different than knowing..

Analyzing for the Fifth Ray segment of the population
can lead to knowing

But for most it just keeps them running in circles

adding more **** to the construct of what binds them.

The problem is in order to communicate verbally
it brings a knowing...
down to the level of the Idea
of what is known...

We analyze ideas

We don't analyze Truths

We know them

That's just an inherent problem with human communication.

If we want to "understand" through non-psychic communication (written and verbal)

We gotta analyze

But what "works for me" best....

Is Silence

[Jeff4freedom]

Yep
I don't Project

Analyzing does not facilitate the process of projection

or Travel, which is my preference.

There is a difference between analyzing

and Knowing

Mostly it's only the 5th Ray portion of the population who can really progress
from Analyzing....
to Knowing

For the rest analysis is just what humans who are attempting to communicate non-psychically, (through talking or written word) do.

And we're here on this forum
to communicate and learn

so sadly,

analysis becomes part of the program

if one person is attempting to understand another

or to make themselves understood

[Jeff4freedom]

OOPS, sorry... I was operating from two separate dimensions at the same time there..... He he

LOL! You make me laugh Jeff! I have separated numerous times from the SP state and I can assure you that the type of projection you get isn't always the same. In fact, more often than not, it is best described as Astral Projection, what I call a Mode 2 OOBE. You basically enter the non-physical realm and experience what appears to be possible worlds and other versions of reality.

Very rarely you enter a Mode 1 OOBE or RTZ projection as Robert Bruce calls it. Even this type could be an accurate simulation of the world and not necessarily the real physical realm. I'm starting to have doubts that you have ever projected at all...

I predict that you will get defensive from this post...if you do it won't surprise me...

[Jeff4freedom]

LOL!
Summerlander....
An expert who knows so little

because he listens soo poorly.


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Pay attention b4 you make an *** of yourself

Too Late

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Do you hear it yet Summerlander

LOL You make me cry Summerlander

"I have separated numerous times from the SP state.... "

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Are you getting it yet

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YOU WERE NOT IN IT
YOU PROJECTED FROM FROM FROM FROM FROM FROM FROM FROM

I think what Jeff is saying makes a lot of sense... just another interpretation that works logically (in my head, at least.)

So when I have a classic OBE with separation and shoot out of my house into the sky above my backyard... what would that be, Jeff? I'm guessing the astral body projecting into the etheric?

LOL! Jeff, what the hell are you talking about? You sound like you are making this up. I projected from the state I was in. There you go. It is you who doesn't READ posts and acts all-knowing. I just said to you that it doesn't matter if you go north south in or out...these concepts, although emulating actuality, are NOT actual. They are illusory. They are properties of the Phase. It's all the same. You are doing nothing but spreading an erroneous idea.

[Xanth]

From?
In?

Jeff, you realize you're arguing semantics, right?

This is just one of many reasons why I really believe you seriously don't have a clue of what you're talking about. You're so ready to jump all over people because they don't use YOUR words.

Sorry, but you're so beyond lost here that it's actually hilarious. I truly believe you post just to read your own posts. Sorry to anyone else reading Jeffs posts, but no, he doesn't make any sense. Not a lick of sense.

Not a lick of sense indeed! I love that! LOL