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05-08-2012, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
That made no sense did it?  
To some of us it did.
As much as 'listening to one hand clapping' - which I completely understand.
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yes and no, kind of a duality answer
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05-08-2012, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiteShaman
It seems to me that a sense of "timelessness", after the fact, is what is not tangible, during the "state". It is just a sense, that one has afterwards of being absorbed into a given situation with no sense of time.
Time, however, is tangible in the ways I mentioned and more (the earth spinning, flowers growing).
Why ask who made time.......I don't follow your point?
Is the earth spinning? Is that not an indication that time is not an illusion.
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The earth may be spinning but still where is time, who made time, everything is happening now, not in the future or the past, only here NOW.
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05-08-2012, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
Hey, don't start turning this into a love-fest!!! 
Duality - ah, Grasshopper there are many dimensions - here in this 3rd dimension
there is an agreement to experience separation (the ultimate duality)...to only find unity yet again,
and to see there was never really any separation at all.
The ebb and flow as was said - it's the Paradox - nothing is what it seems here.
And yet it is exactly what it seems...how can that be?
That made no sense did it?
To some of us it did.
As much as 'listening to one hand clapping' - which I completely understand.
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Yes love being our true Essence, also we experience everything through our senses, and that is the world we know, our senses are not the same as all other animals, so the world is quite different to them, so if we are using what we sense or feel to be the world that we know, where is the argument that which is true or not true?.
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05-08-2012, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Gem
It is easy to make up something which is untrue, call it 'duality', then say it isn't the truth.
There's also the saying which goes, "you cant have 'One' without 'The Other'."
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Well of course you can't have one without the other, all is ONE already, you don't have to make it up, its already made.
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05-08-2012, 09:48 PM
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... our senses are not the same as all other animals...
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I'll say ---that's an under statement...in the electro-magnetic spectrum - we hardly sense anything!!!
Why I dog can hear better than us ---a bird can see farther - -we are so limited it is amazing!!! A cat sees into the bowels of the earth ---well, says Dr. Science.
We can't even pick up a simple radio wave without a receptor ---or a gamma ray or an x-ray...we need machines and magnifiers for most every thing....where are my glasses anyway...where'd they go...
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Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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05-08-2012, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
I'll say ---that's an under statement...in the electro-magnetic spectrum - we hardly sense anything!!!
Why I dog can hear better than us ---a bird can see farther - -we are so limited it is amazing!!! A cat sees into the bowels of the earth ---well, says Dr. Science.
We can't even pick up a simple radio wave without a receptor ---or a gamma ray or an x-ray...we need machines and magnifiers for most every thing....where are my glasses anyway...where'd they go...
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There on your head lol.
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05-08-2012, 11:01 PM
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Well of course you can't have one without the other, all is ONE already, you don't have to make it up, its already made.
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people just call it 'one' and even make it a giant 'ONE'.
People will read and wonder why everything isn't 'one' then make up a fable, name it 'duality' and conclude 'duality' isn't true. This allows for the pointing thing, 'listen to me for I bring you the truth'.
The problem we have is there is no definition of duality, there are only representations of duality... and it's just like the old adage, the name is not the named.
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06-08-2012, 12:14 AM
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The earth may be spinning but still where is time, who made time, everything is happening now, not in the future or the past, only here NOW.
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Time is movement and that has nothing to do with thengss happening now. Of course things are happening now. How does that make time an illusion to oyu? |
06-08-2012, 12:38 AM
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Time is movement and that has nothing to do with thengss happening now. Of course things are happening now. How does that make time an illusion to oyu?
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Because you are putting time to what is happening, that simple.
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06-08-2012, 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Gem
people just call it 'one' and even make it a giant 'ONE'.
People will read and wonder why everything isn't 'one' then make up a fable, name it 'duality' and conclude 'duality' isn't true. This allows for the pointing thing, 'listen to me for I bring you the truth'.
The problem we have is there is no definition of duality, there are only representations of duality... and it's just like the old adage, the name is not the named.
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No definition of duality is not a problem, because you cannot have a definition of what isn't so.
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