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12-04-2024, 05:29 PM
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To know oneself (true self) is to know God, imo.
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12-04-2024, 05:47 PM
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Taking about who is God and knowing the self and the Kingdom of Heaven within..."Our Father Who art in Heaven..."
A short clue, an instructional sentence on the 'how to do that'...comes from
Psalm 46:10: Be Still...
And I will say - it is a stillness most can not imagine.
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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12-04-2024, 06:19 PM
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If a person never heard about God(s)/god(s), would they ever come to know about God(s)/god(s)?
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12-04-2024, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
A short clue, an instructional sentence on the 'how to do that'...comes from
Psalm 46:10: Be Still...
And I will say - it is a stillness most can not imagine.
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It is amazing how simple the basics actually are. I could give several more. For some reason we enjoy complicating it…..but IMO there are many ‘simple’ people that are spiritually advanced. They just live the life without concern of being able too articulate it……. |
12-04-2024, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BigJohn
If a person never heard about God(s)/god(s), would they ever come to know about God(s)/god(s)?
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If I'd never heard about a beautiful piece of music it doesn't mean I'd never come to know about it  |
12-04-2024, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BigJohn
If a person never heard about God(s)/god(s), would they ever come to know about God(s)/god(s)?
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Maybe, maybe not. But I would say is in the right moment - anyone from any era or continent
could and has often felt, perceived a 'Something', maybe a Presence, maybe an Angel pushing them away from a cliff!
Then that primitive or intellectual from any century could form there own conclusion of, say, some invisible power? And call it a Him and call it/Him a god or goddess of the mountain or of the Sun or of grapes or of love.
Or a name like a Deity or Giant in the Sky...not knowing the word ''god''.
Somewhere the Incas or Aztecs came up with the idea their was an invisible
something - 'master of the volcano' ---thinking it/ him would love a virgin thrown in.
Then you have the lucky person that is given WAY MORE than just a feeling or superstition...but some 'download' of true insight happens.
Never hearing about anything such as a 'God'.
All just speculation.
Where did the map of invisible Acupuncture Meridians come from...I believe a Download of information.
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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14-04-2024, 04:55 AM
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If I'd never heard about a beautiful piece of music it doesn't mean I'd never come to know about it |
But how would you know if it is a beautiful piece of music if you never heard it?
In the religions that do not have a God(s)/god(s), does that mean they do not know what they are talking about?
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14-04-2024, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by BigJohn
If a person never heard about God(s)/god(s), would they ever come to know about God(s)/god(s)?
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I think so. But of course "God" is an English word so they would call it something else. Just imagine you were born on earth 8000 years ago then after some time you realize others just like you die. The body stops working. I think the same questions would come to anyone. Questions that come to create a belief in a God or Gods. "What made this place?" "What made me?" "Do I continue in someway after my body dies?"
I think it's a natural series of questions that lead to an idea there has to be "unseen" very powerful beings that created all of this and us. Even like a very simple observation. It takes a male and female to make a baby. How did this start? Who or what made the first male and female? Like the chicken and the egg. Something had to make the first one.
An idea there is some God or God's is also a natural way to get rid of fear. Like a powerful being in charge we can "please" in someway so they protect us.
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14-04-2024, 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by BigJohn
In the religions that do not have a God(s)/god(s), does that mean they do not know what they are talking about?
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I don't think there is a religion that does not believe in powerful beings that exist. It's just some reject the word "God." They still believe in what is basically the same concept. The concept of superior beings is what I'm talking about.
The details of these "God's" are of course unique and not the same. Some are human, some lived on earth, some are in nature, some are fictional, etc. Many differences in what one imagines who or what these superior beings are. |
14-04-2024, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by BigJohn
But how would you know if it is a beautiful piece of music if you never heard it?
In the religions that do not have a God(s)/god(s), does that mean they do not know what they are talking about?
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I'd percieve it as being beautiful when I hear it and know it existed before I heard it....
Nontheist's know what they're talking about... |
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