Self - open discussion

[andrew g]

Originally Posted by God-Like

Do you mean andy that what we are Is expressing themselves "via" consciousness? Or Is It the consciousness that Is In expression?

x daz x

Let me try a second answer (slippery fish time).

It is Consciousness in expression in a billion different ways, but also what we are as Source expresses itself through Consciousness.

I dont see Consciousness as Source (or formlessness) exactly. I see Consciousness more as the mind of God/Source. Its the Creation part. It goes hand in hand with Source, and they are not separate, but if one is primary, its Source.

Consciousness is the 'all that is'. Source is the 'all that is not'.

[sound]

... as/being the source of consciousness ... conscious awareness (you are not the only slippery fish here andrew lol)

[hybrid]

sat chit ananda

truth being conscious of itself and happy about it

[Gem]

Why not watch as things are said, I usually watch what I say, and actually remain clear about the intention driving the action, which in my case could be to kill you all. hehehehe.

What is the intention behind it? That's what I wonder, because sometimes it seems an innocent kind of sharing and other times like an assault on some belief or even on a simple and acceptable perspective, and sometimes an attempt to reign supreme with all these capital 'Truth's as though God is farting or summat.

I prayed God just yesterday to ask what the hell is The Truth, and all I got was a giant raspberry (which I woulda loved to light up)...

On that note... be well.

[andrew g]

Originally Posted by sound

... as/being the source of consciousness ... conscious awareness (you are not the only slippery fish here andrew lol)

I think being a slippery fish is a good way of keeping out of reach of the sharks!

[sound]

Mmm yeah .. it is worthy of reflection Gem thats for sure ... all the words in the world wont change, in essence, what is ... in saying that though (no pun intended blah blah) ... even when we are watching what we say the desire to 'be' spontaneous will only ever work to capture those invaluable learning moments which would otherwise, slip away? ...

[sound]

Originally Posted by andrew g

I think being a slippery fish is a good way of keeping out of reach of the sharks!

i dont know so much andrew .. shark have sharp teeth lol they are not perturbed by scales in fact ... they (the scales) serve as something extra for them to hang on to this is getting rather abstract lol

Originally Posted by andrew g

I think it is Consciousness that is in expression in a billion different ways.

Here's my take

The creativeness that brought forth our creation must stem from what we are and not from consciousness. Consciousness and duality came from that creative Intention. Out from the darkness and Into the light "Halleluyah" brothers and sisters lol.

Where does creative expression come from? If It Is what we are In expression then perhaps It Is what we are that’s creating “things” within consciousness.

Therefore consciousness being no more than a tool like In Ramana Maharshi analogy where he describes consciousness as the window that allows the suns rays (our awareness) to see / realize the self within mind.

Consciousness In essence being just a tool.

x daz x

[andrew g]

Originally Posted by God-Like

Here's my take

The creativeness that brought forth our creation must stem from what we are and not from consciousness. Consciousness and duality came from that creative Intention. Out from the darkness and Into the light "Halleluyah" brothers and sisters lol.

Where does creative expression come from? If It Is what we are In expression then perhaps It Is what we are that’s creating “things” within consciousness.

Therefore consciousness being no more than a tool like In Ramana Maharshi analogy where he describes consciousness as the window that allows the suns rays (our awareness) to see / realize the self within mind.

Consciousness In essence being just a tool.

x daz x

Yes, that sounds similar to my more slippery fish answer. In this sense I would say that Consciousness is a tool of Being itself.

Originally Posted by andrew g

Let me try a second answer (slippery fish time).
but also what we are as Source expresses itself through Consciousness.
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Yer me likes...

x daz x