One God, One Christ, One Life, One Suffering

[Amilius777]

True and thank god for that because the mind can be such a suffering place. OCB obsessive thoughts, repeated ptterns and so forth plague me everyday and I always have to try to observe it and tell myself "it is only ocd, it is only ocd, it is not real!"

Buddha said the mind is our only enemy

Originally Posted by Amilius777

True and thank god for that because the mind can be such a suffering place. OCB obsessive thoughts, repeated ptterns and so forth plague me everyday and I always have to try to observe it and tell myself "it is only ocd, it is only ocd, it is not real!"

Buddha said the mind is our only enemy

I think the above quote is not from the Buddha Amilius, from what I understand it came from the Bhagavad Gita and refers to the unconquered mind.

[Serrao]

Originally Posted by celest

I think the above quote is not from the Buddha Amilius, from what I understand it came from the Bhagavad Gita and refers to the unconquered mind.

Maybe Gautama Buddha said it too because his philosophy was influenced by Hinduism.

Anyway, in the Bhagavad Gita 6.6, Krishna says:
For him who has conquered the mind, the mind is the best of friends; but for one who has failed to do so, his mind will remain the greatest enemy.

[BlueSky]

Originally Posted by celest

I think the above quote is not from the Buddha Amilius, from what I understand it came from the Bhagavad Gita and refers to the unconquered mind.

If I may attempt to add to this celest:
.....and yet it is the unconquered mind that conquers itself. It's not that there is a you and there is a mind and a battle between the two. In fact what we are is completely unaffected by the workings of the mind.
The mind has the ability to run amuck, but it's pure state is to be reflective. We, the awareness, the observer, observe thru the reflective nature of the clear mind or not.

Originally Posted by Capacity

If I may attempt to add to this celest:
.....and yet it is the unconquered mind that conquers itself. It's not that there is a you and there is a mind and a battle between the two. In fact what we are is completely unaffected by the workings of the mind.
The mind has the ability to run amuck, but it's pure state is to be reflective. We, the awareness, the observer, observe thru the reflective nature of the clear mind or not.

Thank you

Originally Posted by Serrao

Maybe Gautama Buddha said it too because his philosophy was influenced by Hinduism.

Anyway, in the Bhagavad Gita 6.6, Krishna says:
For him who has conquered the mind, the mind is the best of friends; but for one who has failed to do so, his mind will remain the greatest enemy.

Yes he could have Serrao but it doesn't sound like one of his quotes, I could be wrong of course. If you find any similar quotes give me a BIG shout please, more for me to learn

[QuantumKev]

Originally Posted by Amilius777

You know when you have a few favorite spiritual teachers and you yourself start to not only understand what they taught but you see it in your own regular life? And you begin to understand it on your own terms?

I feel like that is where I am. Between Eckhart Tolle and Fr. Richard Rohr, I have noticed so many things in my own life that correspond to the Truth that they teach.

I wanted to share this understanding with you all.

There is One God, - One Consciousness that is a part of us all and we are a part of. The One is both divinely feminine and masculine and neither. All life we see, Life itself is an expression of the One Consciousness. There are so many different levels of this higher Power and levels of awareness but all of it is part of the greater Whole.

Even the lowest forms, the lower levels of awareness - those we shun or shame or hate because they carry more of our own dark-side in their lives are part of the One. Murderers, molesters, tyrants, etc. Even though they may be of the "lower forces" (i.e. the devil), they are still part of the One Consciousness. We must accept this because when you are on the Bus or train or walking down the street and you tip your hat to a stranger or help them cross the road or whatever you don't know who they are, what they have done but all Teachings tell us to do good and kindness. It is NONE of our business who or what they have done; whether in this lifetime or a past lifetime.

Overly pious elite and religiously moral individuals shun the dark-side more so than the average person because they shun their own darkness in life. We all have darkness at some spectrum. It is a fact. We are in this separated-realm which we call the Earth. We are all experiencing a separation in consciousness from the One but it is only temporary and illusionary. We separate and experience ourselves as Earthly egos to grow and develop ourselves- as Edgar Cayce said- "To be ourselves as ourselves but also one with the Creative Forces/Whole".

I feel like Buddhism and ancient mystical Catholicism and Wicca all share these things I posted above. I am mentioning the darkness because this is Man's big problem, and it seems like it is more of a "man-masculine issue" than for women. Hitler did what he did because he hated his own secreted-weak character. He projected his own darkside, his own negative feelings on the Jews- his scapegoat. The irony is that he was partially Semitic. This is no surprise. Most people kill the things they should Love and the things that are a part of themselves- self-hate. All hate or let's say all evil comes from our own self-centeredness, our own self-hate and then we create dualism.

Dualistic thinking and self-centeredness are the causes of all suffering- on an individual scale to a global scale. "If we just got rid of all the Republicans, our world would be better off!" "If I just exterminate the Jews we will have peace" "We Protestants have the true church and you don't!" These are bigger dualistic forms that create wars, holocausts, and marginalize groups and the poor.

God doesn't want us to be pious, perfectly moral humans. God desires for us to reconnect with Him/Her. Just sit still one day or watch your life objectively. Just look at things going on in your life. You will notice that there is a guiding force in your life, within yourself that is trying to get you to Reconnect. It does not force and it does not impinge. She simply whispers to us. This is our own higher consciousness, our own soul in connection to the overall Spirit. The Holy Spirit. And even the worst among us has that deeper guidance and awareness but they either turn it off or become divided in themselves to adhere to it.

This Oneness is not above suffering and enjoying the bliss of transcendence. The One Consciousness also suffers with all human suffering. 2 kinds of suffering- suffering we made for ourselves (karma) and collective suffering (you will suffer because there is a World). Either way we all participate in suffering. Original Sin in ancient Christianity was a symbol for the fact that all of us are included in this one suffering and karma. Even if you didn't do anything bad you will suffer with everyone because we are part of a Collective that has both light and dark within it. Even on a smaller scale when you curse someone out or judge them in your mind, your ego is influencing you and making karma. How many of us have judged someone at work and the next day who you thought was your enemy turned out to help you out with a project? That is the Universe humbling your own understanding and subjugating your ego.

Jesus. I almost forgot. Jesus was not only a very holy and great person to look up to, Jesus was also a highly evolved soul who opened the doors to deeper truths which created a new movement and even testament in the Judeo-Christian tradition. Jesus became the Christ. The Christ is the One Consciousness expressing his/her Godself in all created worlds and manifestations. The Christ is the divinized-collective consciousness in all which is both micro and macrocosmic. Meaning the Christ is equally the divine power possessed by the person and the divine power possessed by the Cosmos. God shares Self with ourselves- the Christ. (both Material and spiritual) (God and Man). Jesus in his human life was both God and Man. He had many reincarnations like us all but in his last lifetime as the Nazarene teacher, he became the Christ- he became the perfect channel for the One Consciousness because he completely reconnected with that Force. If you want you could say he became another god along with the One God.- but all one consciousness. (God, Jesus, Holy Spirit)- made a Tri- Unity, a trinity in one consciousness.

He went to the Cross wilfully and joyfully because he knew it would stand as the symbol for the true nature of God and ourselves. Crucifixion means to "cancel out- to crucify", resurrection means to "rise from the dead" "rise to higher life". Jesus accepted his fate and knew it would open a door. His Suffering due to unjust and ignorant humans is the suffering of all the world. It is the karma of the world. And the karma of our lives and others can be lessened and taken away when we follow the example of- "Forgive those who persecute you" That is how we clean the collective of negative energies. We can't have a perfect human world but we can have a more perfect connection with each other and the One Consciousness.

Now when you see life is being directed towards oneness even in your own life you will come to these understandings. Eckhart Tolle even said- "Majority of the world's religion is of a Suffering God, a man on a cross, a god on the cross because both the Universe and yourself are suffering together." That brings us hope and comfort because we know that our suffering is understood and we are being led out of it and at the end of the tunnel there is just the Light and renewal and resurrection.

Ancient Catholic HYMN- "ONE BREAD, ONE BODY, ONE LORD OF ALL, ALTHOUGH WE ARE MANY IN THE EARTH, WE ARE ONE IN ONE LORD OF ALL"

Wow - I just wanted to say this is a fantastic synopsis, and extremely close to what/how I personally believe. I noticed you had another post out there about Buddha and Christ and their similarities, and I too am one who sees and embraces that idea. In fact I have a thread about people blending Buddhism and Christianity.

It's awesome to think that there is someone else out there whose Spiritual Path, and what they have gleaned from it, so closely match up to my experience. I'll have to keep an eye out for posts from you my spiritual brother! : )


Many Blessings...

Qkev

[Cmt12]

If I were to make the claim that spiritual progress and the insights or realizations that it contains are unlocked by bringing our awareness to our pain through introspection.. What would be your response?

[wmsm]

Philosophical reviews speaking with words that have no meaning or purpose.

What conditions are you actually discussing other than using words to imply a condition that does not exist in reality....this is the problem with the ego.

Our mind/brain has always been chemically altered and perception/awareness changed when the signals of radiation changed. Star radiation coming from out of space is an image/sound/interaction with light sound. When it was allowed to have contact with our mind...our personal perceptions change....yet our physical condition that relies on a healthy atmospheric Holiness remains the same....it just gets attacked.

Having the attack studied by occult Scientists at NASA gives them a feeling of self expression that is unrelated to the condition of the human being experimented upon. I only wish the same for your own selves...hope you enjoy the brain journey that you decided to give the victims in America.

We do not belong to star radiation and the terrible aspects of the brain/mind circumstance is a condition that scientists have given to us.

Do you actually propose that your own mind and chemical condition and cells will not be affected by the evil experiments you are doing on the atmosphere? Why is it that you believe as the experimenter that you are safe...other than being an occultist who practices the occult and believes that its own self is safe from doing evil practices?

Since when does Science and alteration/application of a fixed/held constant save your life?

Jesus Christ DIED 33AD...the JESUS in the CHRIST evaluation of PHI ALPHA SPIRIT wavelengths as a holy body interacting with human male DNA was confirmed to have died. A human being a holy Teacher was given the title of Jesus, as he was the Teacher who informed the public of evil science and occult practices against the natural light spirit...our Holy Father.

As the male by self witness was the first manifested spirit out of the light....he has by conscious awareness the identification self realization of creation interactions....proven to us all in his personal observations.

The only 1 God there is, is the GOD OF SELF...each human being is the 1 GOD of self....a self manifested spirit who lives and survives as a WORLD EQUAL human being.

The Teachings advised you evil minded males that male/females were created equally. Using these teachings and implying by evaluating virtues that our Holy Mother was going to save you by giving you a new Jesus Christ was the greatest error your evil minds have ever considered.

Who do you think you are implying that JESUS was a SCIENCE?

[RyanWind]

Originally Posted by Amilius777

Even the lowest forms, the lower levels of awareness - those we shun or shame or hate because they carry more of our own dark-side in their lives are part of the One. Murderers, molesters, tyrants, etc. Even though they may be of the "lower forces" (i.e. the devil), they are still part of the One Consciousness. ...It is NONE of our business who or what they have done; whether in this lifetime or a past lifetime.

Well it is our business to stand up against evil. To stand up for the innocent. To protect those we love.

Originally Posted by Amilius777

God doesn't want us to be pious, perfectly moral humans. God desires for us to reconnect with Him/Her.

The end result of connecting to the source is to become perfectly moral. So it is a goal of "god."

Originally Posted by Amilius777

Even on a smaller scale when you curse someone out or judge them in your mind, your ego is influencing you and making karma. How many of us have judged someone at work and the next day who you thought was your enemy turned out to help you out with a project?

I get what you are saying but there is a good kind of judgment. Actually, refusing to judge evil for what it is makes bad karma. Refusing to judge and stand up against evil will create very bad karma for a person.