Astral Police?

[Astral Explorer]

Originally Posted by PsychicKevin

What are the differences between astral police and police in the physical dimension. Also can you go to jail in the astral and what happens when you go back into your body while you are in jail, would that make you a runaway?

PsychicKevin

Most of the time the astral police are policing your "other" consciousness living in your astral body, not the consciousness you live with as a Human. So if you turn lucid inside of an astral jail it is likely the other extension of consciousness living in your astral body while you're not conscious in it did something to get jailed. But if you do something to get jailed and the projection ends then it is the opposite and the extension of consciousness living in your astral body when your consciousness is not inside of it will be in jail for something you did. It has happened to me both ways on countless occasions actually. With that said yes there are astral jails and usually when I am arrested by the astral police first they send me to a processing center which looks like the front of an office building as it has a front desk a bunch of chairs for us to sit and wait for our turn and then a computer lab in the back. When it is your turn they send you to one of the computers and the person working on it takes your information and from there they decide what to do with you. More often than not they will let you go but sometimes I have been sent to what resembles a homeless shelter although I wasn't allowed to leave. On a few occasions I have gone to what was actually like a prison or jail but that doesn't happen very often.

Astral police are similar to police in the physical dimension as they intervene when someone is breaking the law, the law in the spiritual dimensions are similar and different from the laws in the physical. If the astral police know you're an astral projector/Human chances are you're in a public place like a mall, shopping center, city, movies, etc. They don't want us astral projectors in these areas because we tend to cause a lot of mayhem and so they will typically remove you from these areas and teleport you to another area. Sometimes they will send you to the processing center, sometimes they will send you to jail. It all really depends on where you are and what you did to get their attention. They aren't really usually mean though which is different from the physical world cops most of the time. Even when I have resisted the astral police and fought them off they still laughed and had a light attitude. On a few occasions though one of them was mad with me for being in a certain area but more often than not they nicely escort me away to a different area. There are zones in the astral that seem to have some sort of astral projector traps and it becomes incredibly difficult to walk, which leads to you flying, which leads to the astral police detaining you. These zones are almost always highly populated zones like malls, cities, etc. Your best bet when dealing with the astral police is to act normal, not to fight or run, and to be nice to them. To be honest even if you get arrested and sent to jail it is an interesting experience and will answer a lot of your questions. I will usually apologize for flying or whatever else I did and try and explain why I did it, when I have done that they usually let me go and on a couple occasions they even took me to a very interesting place. One of those places was like outer-space.

[IsleWalker]

Astral Explorer--

You're proposing a solution for which there is no problem.

The only "laws" of the Cosmos are ones that just work by themselves--like physics. That is, thought creates reality, there is no good or bad, just experience and consciousness that makes choices, like energies attract each other. You or astral police can't affect these "laws" one way or the other.

Your interactions with other consciousness can temporarily reduce or enhance their energy based on the kind of interaction--if they allow it. But it doesn't have to. "Astral police" can't change that--only individual consciousnesses have input to that. Your "astral police" can't change the fact that all consciousness has choice.

You're stuck in physical constructs and insist on seeing this dimension in ways that you understand. Take the blinders off---and you'll realize that you are creating these things yourself, you're strait-jacketing yourself. If you want to do "bad" things--go for it. No one will get harmed. We are infinite, so no consciousnesses will be lost in the experiment. Take responsibility for your own choices.

Lora

Originally Posted by IsleWalker

But CNC, these are not people with some form of government! What makes you think they decide together for this protection?

This is thought-created world. Our thoughts create what we want to see, for the most part. When someone else mentioned practicing "mind-control"--that's what we're all doing there.

And if these are people who have passed, they are each functioning separately, not as a group.

Isn't it more likely that the cities you go to are created by YOU? You may be the one who feels protection is necessary. The "cities that are just like our cities"--may be totally created by you.

Do you believe people have a master guide--who is with you from when you are born until you die? If you do, then why would other protection be necessary?

I haven't heard a reason why "astral police" are more than your creation.

Lora

Well, as stated its just one of my "theories" which i have a dozen of at any given time, lol.
But....your response leads me to believe you kind of think astral projection is all created by the mind. I'm down for a healthy debate on the astral police, but I'm not really interested in trying to prove AP is real to you. That's something you have to figure out yourself. :)

[IsleWalker]

Originally Posted by CNC

Well, as stated its just one of my "theories" which i have a dozen of at any given time, lol.
But....your response leads me to believe you kind of think astral projection is all created by the mind. I'm down for a healthy debate on the astral police, but I'm not really interested in trying to prove AP is real to you. That's something you have to figure out yourself. :)

CNC--

You don't have to convince me; I've had my own experiences. As you know, once you have, no one can convince you it was nothing.

As to the "made up"--there's a difference between recognizing that dimensions are created by our own thoughts--even this 3D one--and made up. This 3D dimension is just denser and takes much, much longer for thought to create reality. But it happens. We create our lives, our circumstances, even our own illness. But that's a whole nother discussion!

Begin to do some testing of your own as to the reality of what is there. Consciously change one item in what you see. Or ask that it all change and see what happens. Or think of an entirely new scene and see if you don't end up there---or somewhere else at least.

My skepticism is about those who insist that their own conceptions/creations (e.g. "astral police")--are true for everyone.

Lora

[Astral Explorer]

Originally Posted by IsleWalker

CNC--

You don't have to convince me; I've had my own experiences. As you know, once you have, no one can convince you it was nothing.

As to the "made up"--there's a difference between recognizing that dimensions are created by our own thoughts--even this 3D one--and made up. This 3D dimension is just denser and takes much, much longer for thought to create reality. But it happens. We create our lives, our circumstances, even our own illness. But that's a whole nother discussion!

Begin to do some testing of your own as to the reality of what is there. Consciously change one item in what you see. Or ask that it all change and see what happens. Or think of an entirely new scene and see if you don't end up there---or somewhere else at least.

My skepticism is about those who insist that their own conceptions/creations (e.g. "astral police")--are true for everyone.

Lora

Just because you haven't visited a zone in the astral that the astral police exist doesn't mean that they do not. The truth is if you projected into the same zone as I have and flew threw a crowded area you would have the astral police harassing you. You don't have to believe it or accept it but I would stake anything on it. You are free to believe anything you want to though.

Originally Posted by IsleWalker

CNC--

You don't have to convince me; I've had my own experiences. As you know, once you have, no one can convince you it was nothing.

As to the "made up"--there's a difference between recognizing that dimensions are created by our own thoughts--even this 3D one--and made up. This 3D dimension is just denser and takes much, much longer for thought to create reality. But it happens. We create our lives, our circumstances, even our own illness. But that's a whole nother discussion!

Begin to do some testing of your own as to the reality of what is there. Consciously change one item in what you see. Or ask that it all change and see what happens. Or think of an entirely new scene and see if you don't end up there---or somewhere else at least.

My skepticism is about those who insist that their own conceptions/creations (e.g. "astral police")--are true for everyone.

Lora

Yet, you insist they are NOT true for everyone :)

Once you stop believing people is the day what YOU believe becomes the only thing YOU will ever experience :) Thats how mind generated 3D worlds work. You see what you believe and nothing else....

....but what happens when you stop that line of thinking?

I was stuck in this phase for awhile. I'm very familiar/experienced with mind generated 3D worlds and manifesting items/etc.. I'm getting off topic but

"There is a whole new world out there"
I hope you can see it someday :)

[IsleWalker]

Originally Posted by CNC

"There is a whole new world out there"
I hope you can see it someday :)

CNC---

Not particularly interested in the worlds I can "see"--I'm interested in those you don't "see".

Yes astral police exist. Quite glad they do, because they make my job like ten times easier. Hilarious that so many are angrily arguing against their existence; I can only conclude you guys stick around the astral 'shallows' or basically do nothing of any real value in astral aside from pulling aside the occasional random being and trying to pester them into conversation with you. Many of the areas I go to feature beings that utterly despise the average traveler like that, so trust me, astral police are necessary if for no other reason than to keep meddling humans out of other beings' business. They want to be left the heck alone sometimes, and often conduct business humans have no right to be a part of.

Anyway, the difference between astral police and police in the physical is to me night and day. For one, police in the physical are often corrupt. Police in the astral are pretty-much honor bound and do their job, period - and they generally do it very well. Also astral police have more than one like, unifying government behind them; to be honest, I would never really call them astral police. I'd call them security guards. Because a lot of them are literally just hired fighters who are tasked with guarding an area and enforcing whatever rules the area hosts. Yes there are sort of higher tiers of these guys who uphold more like cosmic laws, but I guarantee you there are almost no astral travelers who've seen them or ever will because they're not going to get to that point. Also those higher-tier guys are quicker to just beat the **** out of you rather than 'jail' you, and they're usually all up in the pockets of inner workings that humans have no business knowing anyway. I'm amused that so many get just 'jailed' or 'moved' though, never met anyone who encountered that - I admit that made me laugh. They're definitely doing a great job.

[astralsuzy]

Astral police cannot be proven so there is no wrong or right. People are different so we have different opinions and have different experiences.

Originally Posted by astralsuzy

Astral police cannot be proven so there is no wrong or right. People are different so we have different opinions and have different experiences.

Pretty much everything on these forums can not be "proven" lol