How Well Do You Know Your Physical?

[Thinker108]

it is the subject of subject of pondering..let me think....

Originally Posted by Alternate Carpark

Considering that my body is comprised of an unknown energy, I regard my physical, mental/emotional and spiritual self as one whole,
all made from the one, currently unknown, energy substance.
Since leaving hospital in 2008, I have been embarking on uniting my inner self, my mind/emotions/soul/spirit with my physical self.
Seemed to have ignored or neglected that part of me for many moons.
The proverbial ghost in the machine scenario. There but in a semi detached state.
Having a wonderful time getting to know it and heal and take care of it.

Hey AC,

Wonderful story,... the ghost in the machine, interesting...please feel free to elaborate on this little phrase

nightowl

Originally Posted by nightowl

Hey AC,

Wonderful story,... the ghost in the machine, interesting...please feel free to elaborate on this little phrase

nightowl

Ghost in the machine refers to a soul being inside machines.
There is the classic anime, Ghost in the Machine movies and series exploring that concept.
Also it's referred to in the recent movie I, Robot.
The creator of the robots was speaking of robots one day having dreams.
That AI could evolve on it's own to become a self aware consciousness.

~smiles~ However, I was not using 'ghost in the machine' like in those examples.
I just like the phrase.
Ghost in the machine in my life refers to my many years of being aware of the "machine" known as AC but I had little or no control over it.
So I was like a ghost in this world.
I, for reasons far and wide, was unable to, well it appeared to me, that I was unable to interact with reality like others around me.
This physical realm was confusing and if something happened to me, I could do nothing about it.
I could feel the pleasure or pain of those incidents but I was unable to see the connection between what was happening to me and the decisions and actions I was choosing each day that created those experience.
This lack of control was not 100%, but it was huge enough to cause me all manner of trouble.

Which is basically what one calls being unconscious, or asleep.
I had a level of awareness but there was a huge disconnection between my inner self and my physical self.
Hence the ghost reference. A ghost can move in the physical realm but has little or no control of the physical, cannot manipulate it, compared to a corporal entity.

Originally Posted by Alternate Carpark

Ghost in the machine refers to a soul being inside machines.
There is the classic anime, Ghost in the Machine movies and series exploring that concept.
Also it's referred to in the recent movie I, Robot.
The creator of the robots was speaking of robots one day having dreams.
That AI could evolve on it's own to become a self aware consciousness.

~smiles~ However, I was not using 'ghost in the machine' like in those examples.
I just like the phrase.
Ghost in the machine in my life refers to my many years of being aware of the "machine" known as AC but I had little or no control over it.
So I was like a ghost in this world.
I, for reasons far and wide, was unable to, well it appeared to me, that I was unable to interact with reality like others around me.
This physical realm was confusing and if something happened to me, I could do nothing about it.
I could feel the pleasure or pain of those incidents but I was unable to see the connection between what was happening to me and the decisions and actions I was choosing each day that created those experience.
This lack of control was not 100%, but it was huge enough to cause me all manner of trouble.

Which is basically what one calls being unconscious, or asleep.
I had a level of awareness but there was a huge disconnection between my inner self and my physical self.
Hence the ghost reference. A ghost can move in the physical realm but has little or no control of the physical, cannot manipulate it, compared to a corporal entity.

AC, yayayyy!!! I was hoping you would share the insights you received from your awareness of the ghost in your machine. Thanks! I loved I Robot

nightowl

Originally Posted by nightowl

AC, yayayyy!!! I was hoping you would share the insights you received from your awareness of the ghost in your machine. Thanks! I loved I Robot

nightowl

A lot of people, the puritans, bagged the movie for not being anything like the book.
If I like an adaption, I like it and I don't care if it's the same as the source material.
I quite like most of Will Smith's work.
Bridgit Moynahan was also excellent, as were the whole cast.
James Cromwell always delivers.
And Alan Tudyk playing Sonny was well done.
And of course the director of The Crow, so the atmosphere, visuals etc of I, Robot were going to be well taken care of.

Just the right blend of humor and foreboding.
The only thing I didn't like are those two 360 degree visual shots.
For me they simply didn't match the rest of the movie.

[Saggi]

I have a physical and spiritual side to me life and I believe my journey is to find the combined middle road between the two, therefore there is no seperation

Love and hugs

Jo

XxXx

Originally Posted by nightowl

I suppose my view of a spiritual life, the goal of this connection, is not a method of learning how to transcend our physical reality, but to understand the whole, the physical and the spiritual and how they work together not against one another.

This is roughly my view as well. I don't bifurcate human nature. Both the physical and the spiritual are aspects of what we are.


eudaimonia,

Mark

Hey Saggi and Eudaimonist ,

I am so pleased to read that there are other who understand what I am seeing as well. Everyone who has posted here have made me smile as they have shared their views.

I found it a little weird for me to try and think that my mind or body is holding me back spiritually, that I am to abandon all attachment to such, it just creates a fog in my mind, I don't think I could ever experience life or Spirit in this way...for me there is not one without the other.

nightowl