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Old 10-07-2011, 10:09 PM
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why would the ego be false? what's false about it? how is it any more false than any other expression of creation?

I think Moke means is that the ego is not indictive of the true self ...just my 2 cents
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Old 10-07-2011, 10:12 PM
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I think Moke means is that the ego is not indictive of the true self ...just my 2 cents

I agree

(not long enough. here is some more noise so my response will post)
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Old 10-07-2011, 10:26 PM
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After reading mattie's main post, I got the sense that it tries to show that resolve and reconciliation with the ego is best. Individual ego is a part of our whole, so if there is something in it that someone does not like, maybe there is some work there to be done. After all, it is a unit of the true self
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Old 10-07-2011, 10:43 PM
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Recognition of ego is first step to stop the ego's persistance. I think Mattie is trying to affiliate ego with self, or just trying to understand. When really ego dies in the Present Moment. Ego strives off time. Your true Self sheds to light in the Present Moment.
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Old 10-07-2011, 10:50 PM
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Greetings..

We already have a very appropriate word, 'Self', that almost everyone understands as a reference to our individuality.. why do we need a word like 'ego', that there is so much misunderstanding and disagreement about.. i really have no use for the word 'ego', it breeds conflict and confusion.. you are who you are, it you display a persona that is different than who you 'really are', then you 'are' a deceiver.. the false personal is not an 'ego', it's a 'lie'..

Be well..
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Old 10-07-2011, 10:57 PM
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I think Moke means is that the ego is not indictive of the true self ...just my 2 cents


truth be told ... i don't know what folks mean by the term "true self". all my selves are true, though they be different aspects of a whole.
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Old 10-07-2011, 11:01 PM
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Recognition of ego is first step to stop the ego's persistance. I think Mattie is trying to affiliate ego with self, or just trying to understand. When really ego dies in the Present Moment. Ego strives off time. Your true Self sheds to light in the Present Moment.


but i don't wanna stop my ego's persistance. she allows me to function in the "real" world. without her i'd probably be on some heavy psychotropic drugs or drooling in the corner of a padded room. i mean, she's not a very big ego but she does have some definite beliefs as to what is real and what is not and i need that.
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Old 10-07-2011, 11:05 PM
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Greetings..

the false personal is not an 'ego', it's a 'lie'..

Be well..

Same thing. Ego, lie. They both mean the same thing to me. Both meanings Ego/lie, both reaching the same conclusion. You use the word 'lie,' I use the word 'ego.' But we have both come to the same conclusion, unless not.
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Old 10-07-2011, 11:07 PM
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Same thing. Ego, lie. They both mean the same thing to me. Both meanings Ego/lie, both reaching the same conclusion. You use the word 'lie,' I use the word 'ego.' But we have both come to the same conclusion, unless not.


i resent that. she is NOT a lie. she's my shield and my sword in a hostile environment and she's as real as any of your manifestations.


lol grrrrr!
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Old 10-07-2011, 11:10 PM
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Ego is simply our personality/individuality/self. A neutral mechanism that is neither good nor bad.

Totally agree, what I can't understand is why the word 'ego' is used as a big stick to beat the self or others with?
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