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03-03-2023, 03:04 PM
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honza i think this is the beauty of God being attributed with a personality
self-realisation is one aspect, that is tied to the realisation of a personality beyond our own
self-realisation can be taken to imply that there is no personality beyond our own, but whatever it takes we have the chance to encounter
self-realisation is a cocoon that is safe from corruption, yet when we realise that we want more than that, it leads to realisation of what is beyond our self?
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03-03-2023, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Honza
What I worry about is the type of God one finds within. Particularly without Jesus being the path to find that God. Self realisation seems to be so indifferent, particularly to the plight of others.The God within us is just our spark of life.
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So those who don't follow Jesus cannot find God ?
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03-03-2023, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by sky
So those who don't follow Jesus cannot find God ?
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In truth I don't know the answer to that. Many Christians believe that to be true. My own opinion is that is might be true.
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03-03-2023, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Honza
In truth I don't know the answer to that. Many Christians believe that to be true. My own opinion is that is might be true.
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So is God a Christian ? |
03-03-2023, 05:18 PM
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Apparently those that are not Christian might not be able to know Him according to Honza's thought process.
So Honza is saying any Jews, Hindus, Muslems, Native Americans might be outta luck.
All the Yogis, Gurus and Swamis might be all lying...plus all the Sikhs; Kabir, Rumi, Hafiz and the other mystic poets that were not Christian.
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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03-03-2023, 05:37 PM
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IMO without giving a lengthy explanation….anyone that overcomes the ego will know God…that was the original point of separation….
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03-03-2023, 07:50 PM
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IMO without giving a lengthy explanation….anyone that overcomes the ego will know God…
that was the original point of separation….
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Thank you.
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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05-03-2023, 07:11 AM
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I wonder if there is a difference between finding yourself, and finding God. Finding yourself would be self-realisation. Finding God would be salvation.
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05-03-2023, 07:35 AM
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I wonder if there is a difference between finding yourself, and finding God. Finding yourself would be self-realisation. Finding God would be salvation.
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"Know Yourself that You May Know God " .
John Calvin....
Last edited by sky : 05-03-2023 at 02:14 PM.
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05-03-2023, 10:34 AM
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As far as Jesus is not hardcore - I have done a list of things he said to do...and my life now is carefree and easy...for 17 years.
His 'yolk' WAS easy...and like a path or formula to happiness and freedom from worldly 'stuff'...burdens.
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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