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23-12-2022, 03:07 AM
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' and the Word was With God ' not before God.....
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At creation, the Word was with God but before creation, was that true?
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23-12-2022, 07:01 AM
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Yes, I believe otherwise. The word is not Jesus, who was a man. The word is the sound of God, which is manifest as all things. First the sound. Then the manifestation of the sound.
One man is not differentiated from another. All men are the same. Essentially there is only one human and that is genderless. We are all part of that one human. In one man all fell and in one we all are resurrected. Those two ideas are manifest in the same one. And they are word.
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23-12-2022, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Maisy
My read on it is the word is just another way to refer to the teachings on God, the way the truth and the light right. All ways to refer to the "truth" that can be found, experienced, and lived.
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'"He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made." – John 1:2-3
I personally can't see 'the teachings on God' to be the Word... but who knows. It's a very thought provoking Gospel, imo.....
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23-12-2022, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by BigJohn
At creation, the Word was with God but before creation, was that true?
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Thanks John .... if Jesus is seen as the 'Word' then this Verse is interesting,
John 1:3 says "All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made."....
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23-12-2022, 08:32 AM
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[QUOTE Keiw1.
"This is 100% fact-Every trinity scholar on earth knows its fact. If they said truth, then it would do away with 40,000 religions claiming to be christian by exposing them as false religions. Billions would be lost yearly and most assuredly 2 billion humans suing them for taking their $$$ all along. Facts do not lie."]
The above is ' not fact ' but an opinion. A fact is an objective piece of information that can be proven true or false , you cannot prove what you have written to be true/false..... We are all obviously entitled to our personal opinions....
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23-12-2022, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by zastrakoza
Yes, I believe otherwise. The word is not Jesus, who was a man. The word is the sound of God, which is manifest as all things.
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"The Word became flesh and dwelt amongst us" etc.....
John 1:14.
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23-12-2022, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by zastrakoza
The word is not Jesus, who was a man.
The word is the sound of God, which is manifest as all things.
First the sound.
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Thank you. ...and in all things...
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23-12-2022, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by sky
But it is the ' distant past '. John begins His gospel by taking us back to the very beginning of time and the creation of the Universe
I love His Gospel of Nonduality (imo).
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Sky,
And to connect us as one(Nonduality) we need to be able to communicate with each other,,,,,,,,the ‘word’ is the means for doing that(and He needed to communicate with us…and wanted to )
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23-12-2022, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Molearner
Sky,
And to connect us as one(Nonduality) we need to be able to communicate with each other,,,,,,,,the ‘word’ is the means for doing that(and He needed to communicate with us…and wanted to )
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Thanks Mo, love it
Why do you personally think the word is always Word (capitalised) in Scriptures ?
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23-12-2022, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by sky
Thanks Mo, love it
Why do you personally think the word is always Word (capitalised) in Scriptures ?
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In that sense as a conveyor of divinity….as is Spirit vs. spirit…….
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