Find the cause of suffering

[sky]

Originally Posted by Eelco

I like that better over the urban dictionaries meaning.
Although harder to attain..


With Love
Eelco

Glad you like it thankfully I never added ' devil '

It now can be used to suggest someone who has a way with words to such an extent that the individual is capable of great deception.


It's an Elizabethan saying but someone altered it and added devil after reading
Proverbs 10:20 (NIV), there's always someone who spoils the original meaning.....

[davidsun]

Originally Posted by Rain95

Strawberries are best.
No they are not!

Strawberries are best.
You are right once again!

Strawberries are best.
Wonderful! Berries!

And then there's "Man shall not live by [strawberreis] alone."

Ooops, that's from a different wisdom tradition.

Ahh, the myopia which may result from not being aware of what's not said!

[Gem]

Originally Posted by jonesboy

Not sure what the ending has to do with the post.

It's very abrupt and conveys that you told me the word and its not up for discussion.

States clearly one is can move beyond the attachments you promote as normal.

I merely note that emotional attachment is true of all close relationships, and we make those attachments gladly even though we know it ain't all roses.

[Gem]

Originally Posted by sky123

True in your understanding, but not true for all.

I think anyone with kids would be distressed if they went missing, don't you?

[Rain95]

Originally Posted by Gem

I merely note that emotional attachment is true of all close relationships, and we make those attachments gladly even though we know it ain't all roses.

An interesting side note about emotional attachment is some claim Buddha had no wives and no children. That was all made up by others 500-1000 years after his death in suttas.

The earliest suttas, the Pali suttas, just have Buddha saying that he left his rich parents with zero mention of a wife, prior wife, or child. Buddha also does not mention being the son of a King or stating that his biological mother died. No "supernatural" details are mentioned in the earliest suttas.

We get some more additions of a fantastical nature from a later stratum of material in the suttas that are rife with supernatural details.

https://tricycle.org/trikedaily/buddhas-family/

The earliest full biography of the Buddha, was written by the poet Asvaghosa in the first century CE long after his death.

According to the article linked above, it's very possible all the family stuff about Buddha was made up. It mentions that the later suttas inventing a wife and child Buddha gave up required some way of justifying these "unspiritual" behaviors so all the details about all these abandoned members of Buddha's family ending up working for Buddha in various ways in his ashram were invented.

It could have really been Buddha had no interest in women sexually as he did not identify with his body or "animal" drives like a normal person does. So he never married or got anyone pregnant. He had zero interest in romantic relationships and had no need for them. It's interesting that the Buddha story has him married to 3 wives or more, having a child, while the Jesus story emphasizes Jesus as never having a wife or child. Just shows how different cultures create myths and stories about religious figures. It's very possible Jesus was married, as some claim, and Buddha never was.

[Rain95]

Originally Posted by sky123

there's always someone who spoils the original meaning.....

That's probably true for every person a religion was based on.

[Gem]

Originally Posted by Rain95

An interesting side note about emotional attachment is some claim Buddha had no wives and no children. That was all made up by others 500-1000 years after his death in suttas.

The earliest suttas, the Pali suttas, just have Buddha saying that he left his rich parents with zero mention of a wife, prior wife, or child. Buddha also does not mention being the son of a King or stating that his biological mother died. No "supernatural" details are mentioned in the earliest suttas.



The earliest full biography of the Buddha, was written by the poet Asvaghosa in the first century CE long after his death.

According to the article linked above, it's very possible all the family stuff about Buddha was made up. It mentions that the later suttas inventing a wife and child Buddha gave up required some way of justifying these "unspiritual" behaviors so all the details about all these abandoned members of Buddha's family ending up working for Buddha in various ways in his ashram were invented.

It could have really been Buddha had no interest in women sexually as he did not identify with his body or "animal" drives like a normal person does. So he never married or got anyone pregnant. He had zero interest in romantic relationships and had no need for them. It's interesting that the Buddha story has him married to 3 wives or more, having a child, while the Jesus story emphasizes Jesus as never having a wife or child. Just shows how different cultures create myths and stories about religious figures. It's very possible Jesus was married, as some claim, and Buddha never was.

Yes, we really don't know the 'true story' (we can onlyu say it's true that it was written down us such), but we can fairly assume things that don't match the ideal were chopped from the historical record and other things were added in, but still, the essence of the teachings were more-or-less preserved, and I prefer to make fairly loose interpretations rather that lay claim to a 'true meaning'.

[sky]

Originally Posted by Gem

I think anyone with kids would be distressed if they went missing, don't you?

If you do little searching around and read some Buddhist teachings on ' Upadana ' you might see that your idea of attachments are not the same as what Buddhism teaches, but that's if your really interested....

[sky]

Originally Posted by Rain95

That's probably true for every person a religion was based on.

Yes, we add and subtract all the time Best to try and follow the Middle Way.

[sky]

Originally Posted by Rain95

An interesting side note about emotional attachment is some claim Buddha had no wives and no children. That was all made up by others 500-1000 years after his death in suttas.

The earliest suttas, the Pali suttas, just have Buddha saying that he left his rich parents with zero mention of a wife, prior wife, or child. Buddha also does not mention being the son of a King or stating that his biological mother died. No "supernatural" details are mentioned in the earliest suttas.



The earliest full biography of the Buddha, was written by the poet Asvaghosa in the first century CE long after his death.

According to the article linked above, it's very possible all the family stuff about Buddha was made up. It mentions that the later suttas inventing a wife and child Buddha gave up required some way of justifying these "unspiritual" behaviors so all the details about all these abandoned members of Buddha's family ending up working for Buddha in various ways in his ashram were invented.

It could have really been Buddha had no interest in women sexually as he did not identify with his body or "animal" drives like a normal person does. So he never married or got anyone pregnant. He had zero interest in romantic relationships and had no need for them. It's interesting that the Buddha story has him married to 3 wives or more, having a child, while the Jesus story emphasizes Jesus as never having a wife or child. Just shows how different cultures create myths and stories about religious figures. It's very possible Jesus was married, as some claim, and Buddha never was.

Anything is possible when we use imagination, I personally don't care about about the packaging it's the contents inside that I find interesting.