Do All Insects Go To Heaven?

[neil]

Originally Posted by utopiandreamchild
Heaven is for all of gods creations including insects and animals. Do insects go to heaven?, the answer is yes.
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THIS IS A RE'POST, AS I WOULD STILL LIKE TO HEAR A FEW THOUGHTS REGARDING IT.
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And what will insects & animals all do in Heaven, as non sentient entities.
When they can not chew, poop, polinate & produce offspring.

Will the gazillions upon gazillions of animals such as cows, buffalo, rhinos, elephants, giraffes, to name only a few, etc, when there is no need for nourishment & reproduction, just stand there staring at each other....multitudes of untold numbers just standing there staring.

Will the absolute untold multi gazillions of slithering reptiles simply lay there on ground & stare at each other & hisssss.

What about the absolute mind boggling gazillions upon gazillions upon gazillions of birds. The only reason that they fly around is to look for food & or a mate to produce offspring with. So what will they all do if there is no need to take flight or eat or reproduce maybe they will sit on branches staring at each other...if there is enough branches in heaven for them to sit on. Because trees do not go to heaven.

Now contemplate the vast amount of water nessesary, for the crazy mind bending quantities of under water mamals to live in. & What will they all be doing if they are not swimming around to enable water to flow through their gills in order to stay alive. When they are not swimming around to catch & eat or breed with others of their kind, what will they all be doing, will they also just float in the one spot & stare at each other or into the deep blue yonder.

God created the vast abundant spiritual lands to house sentient beings, that is already with sufficient wild life within. There is no need for many hundreds of thousands of years worth of crazy amounts of wild life there as well.

Any intelligent thoughts from anyone...'Bigjohn'...I am after intelligent thoughts..OK.

[utopiandreamchild]

The goal of life is for all species to live harmoniously one to another and give thanks to the darkness for without there could be no light. Amen

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by utopiandreamchild

Mother earths destiny is to be " paradise " when heaven is unified with earth then shall we have paradise on earth. Amen

..... but most people believe they will go to Heaven, not be resurrected here on Earth.

..... but then Revelation implies that very thought.


Namaste.

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by neil

Originally Posted by utopiandreamchild
Heaven is for all of gods creations including insects and animals. Do insects go to heaven?, the answer is yes.
-------------------------
THIS IS A RE'POST, AS I WOULD STILL LIKE TO HEAR A FEW THOUGHTS REGARDING IT.
---------------------------
And what will insects & animals all do in Heaven, as non sentient entities.
When they can not chew, poop, polinate & produce offspring.

Will the gazillions upon gazillions of animals such as cows, buffalo, rhinos, elephants, giraffes, to name only a few, etc, when there is no need for nourishment & reproduction, just stand there staring at each other....multitudes of untold numbers just standing there staring.

Will the absolute untold multi gazillions of slithering reptiles simply lay there on ground & stare at each other & hisssss.

What about the absolute mind boggling gazillions upon gazillions upon gazillions of birds. The only reason that they fly around is to look for food & or a mate to produce offspring with. So what will they all do if there is no need to take flight or eat or reproduce maybe they will sit on branches staring at each other...if there is enough branches in heaven for them to sit on. Because trees do not go to heaven.

Now contemplate the vast amount of water nessesary, for the crazy mind bending quantities of under water mamals to live in. & What will they all be doing if they are not swimming around to enable water to flow through their gills in order to stay alive. When they are not swimming around to catch & eat or breed with others of their kind, what will they all be doing, will they also just float in the one spot & stare at each other or into the deep blue yonder.

God created the vast abundant spiritual lands to house sentient beings, that is already with sufficient wild life within. There is no need for many hundreds of thousands of years worth of crazy amounts of wild life there as well.

Any intelligent thoughts from anyone...'Bigjohn'...I am after intelligent thoughts..OK.

The animals will probably do what humans do..... when they get to Heaven.

[davidsun]

Originally Posted by neil

Originally Posted by utopiandreamchild
Heaven is for all of gods creations including insects and animals. Do insects go to heaven?, the answer is yes.
-------------------------
THIS IS A RE'POST, AS I WOULD STILL LIKE TO HEAR A FEW THOUGHTS REGARDING IT.
---------------------------
And what will insects & animals all do in Heaven, as non sentient entities.
When they can not chew, poop, polinate & produce offspring.

Will the gazillions upon gazillions of animals such as cows, buffalo, rhinos, elephants, giraffes, to name only a few, etc, when there is no need for nourishment & reproduction, just stand there staring at each other....multitudes of untold numbers just standing there staring.

Will the absolute untold multi gazillions of slithering reptiles simply lay there on ground & stare at each other & hisssss.

What about the absolute mind boggling gazillions upon gazillions upon gazillions of birds. The only reason that they fly around is to look for food & or a mate to produce offspring with. So what will they all do if there is no need to take flight or eat or reproduce maybe they will sit on branches staring at each other...if there is enough branches in heaven for them to sit on. Because trees do not go to heaven.

Now contemplate the vast amount of water nessesary, for the crazy mind bending quantities of under water mamals to live in. & What will they all be doing if they are not swimming around to enable water to flow through their gills in order to stay alive. When they are not swimming around to catch & eat or breed with others of their kind, what will they all be doing, will they also just float in the one spot & stare at each other or into the deep blue yonder.

God created the vast abundant spiritual lands to house sentient beings, that is already with sufficient wild life within. There is no need for many hundreds of thousands of years worth of crazy amounts of wild life there as well.

Any intelligent thoughts from anyone...'Bigjohn'...I am after intelligent thoughts..OK.

Hello Neil - I think you have to broaden your understanding of 'soul' to the point where you 'see' that the concepts/principles which apply to individuating (via the reincarnation process) human and maybe 'higher' animal souls don't necessarily apply to the 'group' souls (which may be thought of a devas) which plants, insects, 'lower' animals, etc. derive from and belong to.

Not that I personally fully grok and can explain the details and dynamics involved mind you, but you may get a sense of what may be going on (including post-incarnationally) from info pertaining to the activities of 'angels' and 'devas', such as is shared at this link:

https://www.findhorn.org/front-page/...ature-spirits/

[davidsun]

To Neil: The following footnote from my book, Godspeak 2000, hints at the complexity of 'individual'-subsumed-within-the-context-of-'group' Being-n-Doing.

"Note, however, this principle is not strictly interpretable on an ‘individual’ basis. In fact, since every living entity is part of a larger one (except for the whole), the very concept of ‘an’ individual is a categorical oversimplification of the truth. As is clearly the case with multi-cellular organisms and the cells that comprise them, Life is not an individual phenomenon or attribute. Existence is an integrated continuum, with ‘lesser’ Life nested within ‘greater’ Life, from the very least, up to and including the totality of being. Actualization is therefore not just a private matter, governed by individual power and choice. The principle of ‘the survival of the fittest’, for example, is less a function of personal power and prerogative than of living context. While ‘individual’ units pursue goals of their own, the results of their initiatives are determined by the hierarchical bearing of entities they are part of, as these go about effecting more comprehensive values in the same process."

[utopiandreamchild]

Originally Posted by BigJohn

..... but most people believe they will go to Heaven, not be resurrected here on Earth.

..... but then Revelation implies that very thought.


Namaste.

Revelation speaks of the coming of the son of man and him coming on the clouds of heaven when heaven and earth will be renewed./unified. The future. Amen

[iamthat]

Originally Posted by neil

And what will insects & animals all do in Heaven, as non sentient entities. When they can not chew, poop, polinate & produce offspring.

Will the gazillions upon gazillions of animals such as cows, buffalo, rhinos, elephants, giraffes, to name only a few, etc, when there is no need for nourishment & reproduction, just stand there staring at each other....multitudes of untold numbers just standing there staring.

Will the absolute untold multi gazillions of slithering reptiles simply lay there on ground & stare at each other & hisssss.

What about the absolute mind boggling gazillions upon gazillions upon gazillions of birds. The only reason that they fly around is to look for food & or a mate to produce offspring with. So what will they all do if there is no need to take flight or eat or reproduce maybe they will sit on branches staring at each other...if there is enough branches in heaven for them to sit on. Because trees do not go to heaven.

Now contemplate the vast amount of water nessesary, for the crazy mind bending quantities of under water mamals to live in. & What will they all be doing if they are not swimming around to enable water to flow through their gills in order to stay alive. When they are not swimming around to catch & eat or breed with others of their kind, what will they all be doing, will they also just float in the one spot & stare at each other or into the deep blue yonder.

God created the vast abundant spiritual lands to house sentient beings, that is already with sufficient wild life within. There is no need for many hundreds of thousands of years worth of crazy amounts of wild life there as well.

Why do you define animals as non-sentient? Such a limitation exists only in your own thinking.

An alternative perspective:

As has been pointed out, the idea that animals, birds, fishes may continue existence after physical death in an appropriate astral realm is not stranger than the idea that humans continue to exist on whichever astral realms suit them, doing whatever activities humans do, much of which may seem pointless.

But given the limitations of the astral vehicles of the animal kingdom, I presume they are confined to the lower astral planes. Humans with their finer astral capabilities have the potential to reach the higher astral planes.

But such astral existence is only temporary for all of us. Just as the physical body dies, so eventually the astral body will be shed. So then we humans function in our mental bodies on the mental plane. The greater our mental development the better we can function, and those whose minds are more developed may also access the higher mental planes.

Such functioning on the mental plane is beyond the animal kingdom, who have a very limited mental capacity. So animal consciousness returns to the animal group soul. Eventually the human sheds the mental body and consciousness rests in the human soul, absorbing the experiences of the last incarnation and preparing for the next incarnation.

The cycle of incarnation does not just mean the physical plane existence, it also incorporates existence on the subtle planes before physical birth and after physical death.

Peace

[utopiandreamchild]

One must choose to go to heaven without choice there will be no experience. It's our choice no matter what species we are. It's always and ever our own choice. If you don't believe it you just won't go there. Simple. Amen

[neil]

Originally Posted by utopiandreamchild

The goal of life is for all species to live harmoniously one to another and give thanks to the darkness for without there could be no light. Amen

That is not so correct. God/creator could illuminate this entire universe with his mind in consenance with the magical matter of the universe (of which is the one & only spiritual universe), as he has done throughout the entire Heavens, via his word/thought.

If creator wanted, he could simply have a desire for the entire one & only single spiritual universe, (of which contains all galaxies), to be lit by spiritual light, of the most incredible radiant lumenesence. & the light of our Sun would pale in significance & all darkness & would simply not exist.

Darkness, lack of lumenence, is only in existence in certain parts of the one & only single spiritual universe of which contains the physical galaxies & Heavens, because there is absolutely zero nessesity to illuminate unused sections of the universe.
And the organic planetary situations survive on the nessesity of sun & no sun & seasons of which are caused by the spinning of the Earth..hence day & night.

Darkness is not nessesary for light to exist. If you would like further explanation, please ask.