Self - open discussion - Page 14

andrew g · #**131** 22-01-2011, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by hybrid

oh i thought you were gunning with all your post with peace and joy.
what sort of person you imagine yourself to be if you have no more goal?

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If I had no goal at all I would be a purely peaceful and joyful person. I totally agree that its the seeking that gets in the way of peace and joy. I think though that to have absolutely no goal at all is what I would call 5th dimensional because if there was no seeking at all, there would only be creative expression.

hybrid · #**132** 22-01-2011, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by andrew g

If I had no goal at all I would be a purely peaceful and joyful person. I totally agree that its the seeking that gets in the way of peace and joy. I think though that to have absolutely no goal at all is what I would call 5th dimensional because if there was no seeking at all, there would only be creative expression.

in pure creative expression (5D), what happens to the self image?

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ROM · #**133** 22-01-2011, 12:47 AM

We become more beautiful!
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andrew g · #**134** 22-01-2011, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by hybrid

are not these the things that supposed to drop in the moment of realization?

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Ah, I missed this first time round.

Depends what you mean by the 'moment of realization'. I dont think the masters (Niz, Ramana, Tolle, Jesus etc) are/were totally and fully beyond all seeking.

andrew g · #**135** 22-01-2011, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by hybrid

in pure creative expression (5D), what happens to the self image?

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No more self-image at all. We dont need one, there is no longer any belief in anything to gain or anything to lose.

andrew g · #**136** 22-01-2011, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by rom2014

We become more beautiful!
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Thats nice. I think we really would.

hybrid · #**137** 22-01-2011, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by andrew g

No more self-image at all. We dont need one, there is no longer any belief in anything to gain or anything to lose.

and this is your aim?
or at least your worldview, right?
which means to say, what everybody should be aiming for.

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#**138** 22-01-2011, 12:56 AM

Maybe this has already been posted, if so, disregard.

Let me define terms.

1. Self = The Agent that defines Itself as 'I,' 'Me,' and 'Myself.'

2. Self = God.

Thus,

I is
Eternal,
Immortal,
Ineffable,
Immutable,
Ineffable,
Infinite,
Immaterial,
Unobstructing,
Omnipresent,
Omnipotent,
Ominscient,
All-Loving,
All-Compassionate,
All-Forgiving.

That's what Self is.
That's what I am.

I am the Truth.

Peace on Earth,

Ik

BlueSky · #**139** 22-01-2011, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by sound

What do others hold as true about the 'self'? There are many ideas, beliefs, understandings and perception surrounding 'self'. Some say it is a concept, others say it is true or false identity, there are those who claim it is non existent, others claim/perceive higher and lower selves. Heres to hoping we can have a friendly discussion amongst ourselves lol

I hold nothing true about the concept/belief/idea/understanding of what is referred to as self that I hear from others and I don't have any ideas about it myself to do a check and see if I hold them to be true.

James

andrew g · #**140** 22-01-2011, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by hybrid

and this is your aim?
or at least your worldview, right?
which means to say, what everybody should be aiming for.

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My answer is simple in that yes, I think everyone is seeking peace, reconnection and joy in the billions of different ways that we are doing that.

Though I would have to factor in what I see happening at a soul level, in which I would say that some people in the world are much more ready for peace, reconnection and joy than others.