How is being a vegetarian different from eating the meat of an animal?

[Lovely]

Originally Posted by Chrysaetos

A cat is a carnivore so it needs meat, and meat should also be the staple food for a dog.
Veggies don't give them enough protein and iron, and grains make them fat. They need mostly animal protein for optimal health.

Is forcing meater pets on a vegan/vegetarian diet not putting man above nature?
Imo, if a vegan wants to stick close to his ideals, he should get a canary or rabbit..

I know, it seems cruel to give a vegan diet to a cat. Maybe a dog, but
idk about a cat. But I'm not a veterinarian so idk...

And I can't help but think you guys are against plant eaters like rabbits, guinea pigs etc
and even vegan humans.
I admit, it's a bit hurtful.

[NightSpirit]

[quote=Lovely]I know, it seems cruel to give a vegan diet to a cat. Maybe a dog, but
idk about a cat. But I'm not a veterinarian so idk...

And I can't help but think you guys are against plant eaters like rabbits, guinea pigs etc
and even vegan humans.
I admit, it's a bit hurtful.[/quote]

You are not a victim Lovely! Move away from that frame of mind. I've read these posts and honestly, everyone has bent over backwards to listen to you and reply in very polite ways. Yet now you're pointing the finger at them again.

Get over it and do what you feel you have to for your own self and leave others to do what they choose. This thread just keeps going round and round without resolve. Sorry, I try not to get cranky and have a high tolerance level, but this is ridiculous. Go get your herbivore pet but dont subject meat-eating animals to a diet that will kill them....is that not being cruel in itself?

[Lovely]

[quote=NightSpirit]

Originally Posted by Lovely

I know, it seems cruel to give a vegan diet to a cat. Maybe a dog, but
idk about a cat. But I'm not a veterinarian so idk...

And I can't help but think you guys are against plant eaters like rabbits, guinea pigs etc
and even vegan humans.
I admit, it's a bit hurtful.[/quote]

You are not a victim Lovely! Move away from that frame of mind. I've read these posts and honestly, everyone has bent over backwards to listen to you and reply in very polite ways. Yet now you're pointing the finger at them again.

Get over it and do what you feel you have to for your own self and leave others to do what they choose. This thread just keeps going round and round without resolve. Sorry, I try not to get cranky and have a high tolerance level, but this is ridiculous. Go get your herbivore pet but dont subject meat-eating animals to a diet that will kill them....is that not being cruel in itself?

I never said I was a victim and never said I was going to make a meat eating
animal to a vegan diet.

[NightSpirit]

[quote=Lovely]

Originally Posted by NightSpirit

I never said I was a victim and never said I was going to make a meat eating
animal to a vegan diet.

When I'm on my own i may adopt a dog and/or cat and consult a
Veterinarian or a animal nutritionist about a vegan diet for them.

Whats that then?

I know, it seems cruel to give a vegan diet to a cat. Maybe a dog, but
idk about a cat. But I'm not a veterinarian so idk...

and that?

And I can't help but think you guys are against plant eaters like rabbits, guinea pigs etc
and even vegan humans.
I admit, it's a bit hurtful

Not a victim mentality?

[Lovely]

[quote=NightSpirit]

Originally Posted by Lovely

Whats that then?



and that?




Not a victim mentality?

No, I wouldn't make them go on a vegan diet unless I got a professional's
okay.

And all I did was share my feelings. Sorry.
I think it was such a horrible thing to do.

[Chrysaetos]

Originally Posted by Lovely

I know, it seems cruel to give a vegan diet to a cat. Maybe a dog, but idk about a cat. But I'm not a veterinarian so idk...
And I can't help but think you guys are against plant eaters like rabbits, guinea pigs etc and even vegan humans. I admit, it's a bit hurtful.

I know first hand that too much grains can make a dog fat, and I reckon that a vegan/vegetarian diet would mean the dog has to eat more grains to get enough energy (veggies alone won't do). Animal protein is far better for optimal health, it gives them what they need. The occasional apple is good too. I don't trust any veterinarian who says cats and dogs can live without trouble on a meat-free diet.

btw. I'm not against plant/seed eaters, as I have canaries and pigeons! Though I prefer meater pets because they are smart, playful, and naughty.

[Lovely]

Originally Posted by Chrysaetos

I know first hand that too much grains can make a dog fat, and I reckon that a vegan/vegetarian diet would mean the dog has to eat more grains to get enough energy (veggies alone won't do). Animal protein is far better for optimal health, it gives them what they need. Sometimes an apple or cooked egg is good too. I don't trust any veterinarian who says cats and dogs can live without trouble on a meat-free diet.

btw. I'm not against plant eaters, as I have canaries and pigeons! Though I prefer meater pets because they are smart, playful, and naughty.

See this is the moral dilemma I face with a dog and cat! lol. I don't
want to support the meat industry. But my pets need meat. Right now
I just feed them what my parents give me to feed them.
I guess I'll just stick with herbivores from now on lol.

And I guess I just misunderstood,sorry lol

[sound]

Its interesting .... animals eat each other and don't seem to suffer a moral dilemma ...

[Lovely]

Originally Posted by sound

Its interesting .... animals eat each other and don't seem to suffer a moral dilemma ...

Well, of course not. They go with instincts. Not logic, reason and morals.
Well, chimps have been shown to have morals but I don't have
a pet chimp to worry about lol

[NightSpirit]

[quote=Lovely]

Originally Posted by NightSpirit

No, I wouldn't make them go on a vegan diet unless I got a professional's
okay.

And all I did was share my feelings. Sorry.
I think it was such a horrible thing to do.

Well gee, cmon lovely...lets use a little common sense here. Would it be okay to go ask the vet if i can put my budgerigar on a meat diet? Thats all im saying. You said you felt we were hurtful, but this thread was started in the first place by a vegan who felt victimised by meat-eaters. Those meat-eaters have bent over backwards to reply politely and calmly in the face of what accusations are being thrown out at them and then you turn round and say "you guys are so hurtful"...what is that?!!! If you can't handle the heat in the kitchen then don't enter it.

I can have as pleasant a conversation with anyone, given the opportunity to not be put down by another. thanks