True Self.

[jonesboy]

Originally Posted by sky123

Where is there to go Jonesboy. We are already there are we not ?

Have you thought about the 'Qigong ' answer yet ?

Sky you must not like to read because I just showed you a whole bunch of qiqong progressions....

Or did you not realize that is was qigong I was just posting about?

That is your practice is it not?

Is Qigong about converting Ching > Chi > Shen > Void ???

Also,

Are you already there Sky? Are you enlightened? If not then you have some progression to work on

[sky]

Originally Posted by jonesboy

Sky you must not like to read because I just showed you a whole bunch of qiqong progressions....

Or did you not realize that is was qigong I was just posting about?

That is your practice is it not?

Is Qigong about converting Ching > Chi > Shen > Void ???

Also,

Are you already there Sky? Are you enlightened? If not then you have some progression to work on

What you copied & pasted is not genuine Qigong, I was asking you personally not for a c&p from others

Am I enlightened..... who is ' I ' ?

No Qigong is not about converting chi..

[RyanWind]

An apple can be thrown at somebody or eatin or given to somebody else. What the apple is, is not important. What is important is who is holding it.

[Jeremy Bong]

Sky,

You have created a very great thread that needs serious deeper discussion.

Qigong 气功 is practicing in Chinese Buddhism. This is physical practicing but I don't think it will make a monk to reach Buddha level by practicing it. May be with some help. What I see joneboy is saying to practice Qigong one can become like God or Buddha. Is it the main factor of becoming Buddha, I doubt about it.

And chatra things also isn't the way for Buddhism teaching in China but in India or spread from India.... I doubt it will create Buddha formation of a person.

My sister knows about Qigong it's only a practice for physical health not for godly formation. The qi or chi气 can pass through her body from her head to her limbs and with her hands vibrating when practicing.

[sky]

Double post.

[sky]

Originally Posted by Jeremy Bong

Sky,

You have created a very great thread that needs serious deeper discussion.

Qigong 气功 is practicing in Chinese Buddhism. This is physical practicing but I don't think it will make a monk to reach Buddha level by practicing it. May be with some help. What I see joneboy is saying to practice Qigong one can become like God or Buddha. Is it the main factor of becoming Buddha, I doubt about it.

And chatra things also isn't the way for Buddhism teaching in China but in India or spread from India.... I doubt it will create Buddha formation of a person.

My sister knows about Qigong it's only a practice for physical health not for godly formation. The qi or chi气 can pass through her body from her head to her limbs and with her hands vibrating when practicing.

Your right Jeremy, genuine Qigong has nothing to do with Buddhism. It is very good for your inner and outer body. Yes you can feel the chi vibrating in your hands when practising.

[jonesboy]

Originally Posted by sky123

What you copied & pasted is not genuine Qigong, I was asking you personally not for a c&p from others

Am I enlightened..... who is ' I ' ?

No Qigong is not about converting chi..

Yes Qigong does.. I have showed you multiple resources.. It is a pretty basic thing to know that qigong is about stages of progression just like Buddhism and Yoga...

Who is the I.. right now you are Sky.. You still have the 'I".. I am telling you there are paths to progress from the 'I"

:)

Makes sense now?

[sky]

Originally Posted by jonesboy

Sky you must not like to read because I just showed you a whole bunch of qiqong progressions....

Or did you not realize that is was qigong I was just posting about?

That is your practice is it not?

Is Qigong about converting Ching > Chi > Shen > Void ???

Also,

Are you already there Sky? Are you enlightened? If not then you have some progression to work on

What do you convert chi ( your words not mine ) into btw ?

[sky]

Originally Posted by jonesboy

Yes Qigong does.. I have showed you multiple resources.. It is a pretty basic thing to know that qigong is about stages of progression just like Buddhism and Yoga...

Who is the I.. right now you are Sky.. You still have the 'I".. I am telling you there are paths to progress from the 'I"

:)

Makes sense now?

What do you convert the Chi into?

[jonesboy]

Originally Posted by sky123

What do you convert the Chi into?

Didn't I post that already?

Are you not the Qigong person?

Song of the Ten Phases of Cultivation and Mastery of Qi
From The Healing Promise of Qi by Roger Jahnke OMD

In seeking to live vitally in accord with the true nature of the world,
I first become aware of the essential universal resource – Qi.
I find, observe and sense Qi within myself,
in my surroundings, in all beings and everywhere in the universe.
When this profound resource is gathered and absorbed,
its increased presence activates the circulation of Qi
in my channels, reservoirs and fields.
I purify and cleanse the Qi
by dispelling impure and spent resources.
I direct the pure and fresh Qi in the internal pathways
to the organs, glands, limbs and senses.
The activity of pure and ample Qi
empowers my capacity to fulfill my destiny,
my work and my creativity.
To sustain and even multiply my vitality
I conserve, protect and accumulate the Qi
through moment- to- moment life choices.
Qi that is spent is lost, that which I conserve
accumulates and may be stored.
Through cultivation, Qi that is stored
can be transformed within me,
transmuting inner resources,
through inner alchemy, into the Golden Elixir.
When it is transformed the Qi is refined into pure Spirit (Shen)
which elevates my awareness of unity
with my boundless universal nature.
When I am unified with the universal
I am undifferentiated,
one with all possibilities, beings and things.
United with all that is and all that could possibly be,
I dissolve into the boundless field of The One.
One with the Universe, I am the Universe.
One with all beings and possibilities
I am moved to serve those around me,
knowing that they are none other than myself

Here is a very nice PDF.

Your answer is on page 37 but I highly encourage you to read the stuff before it :)

http://www.instituteofintegralqigong...ual_091509.pdf


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