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Originally Posted by JosephineBloggs
All I can remember about the bible quote, was that Jesus embarrassed someone, or a group. I thought it had something to do with a shirt off his or their back. Not literally, it was just an idea that would cause embarrassment if they were in front of everyone with no shirt. Sorry, that's all I've got atm, hopefully it will come back to me. I've already put a few phrases into the search engine, not found it so far. You've quoted it in the past to justify some of your harsher lessons.
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Here is a link to the post where I shared a footnote from my treatise where I talked about the fact that men in Jesus's culture wore
nothing under their 'shirts' which were of the 'long' to their knees kind - hence if they took off their shirt they would be
naked:
http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/sh...#post1 861215
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Originally Posted by JosephineBloggs
This issue of someone losing their soul isn't something that makes sense to me. One lifetime of living a certain way, however lived, I just don't think it would cause that. Now, maybe we could look at it that their soul didn't develop very much in that one lifetime. Again, makes little difference. The soul is eternal. Where's the rush  |
Jesus's statement were highly 'condensed' - he was talking at a time (
like now!) when
destinies determined by choices made over the course of
many lifetimes were being 'sealed'. Here is the post which includes the parts of my treatise where I talk about
that:
http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/sh...#post178 4600
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Originally Posted by JosephineBloggs
Nothing thrives due to cruelty. Whether it be people or animals. Although, I know suffering can teach. I think cruelty brings people down, whereas lovingkindness lifts them up. If a person is already suffering because they haven't lovingkindness in their life. No amount of extra cruelty on top of that is going to help imo. If a person is given lovingkindness. Surely that will help lift them out of suffering. I know you have a different idea that cruel to be kind works. As I said before. Does it really. Have you seen this work?
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What Elizabeth Haich is talking about is "
tough love" 'cruelty' - yes, as many alcoholics and spoiled brat children who (only) 'woke up' to the
need for
them to assume a greater degree of personal responsibility
after having been will testify, it
can work (more so than the kind of 'kindness' which
reinforces their 'habits' and
enables them to continue their 'dereliction'), albeit because of people's
recalcitrance it
doesn't always work - I think that
sometimes it only 'works' 'after the fact', in the context of their
next life, i.e.
after they have a smacking themselves on the head post-life "I could have had a V8!" kind of realization. You've heard of souls engaging in post-life 'reviews', I assume.
Of course, harshly 'jerking the collar' of a kid who
can't (yet!) tie his shoelaces is
not 'good' 'parenting'. Neither is 'indulging' a 'kid' who
can but
doesn't in the 'name' of 'kindness'. The latter presently applies to
huge segments of 'humanity' which continue to rape and ravish aspects of our natural and social ecosystems
as well as 'kindly'
'indulge' and 'ignore' others who also
parasitically do so. Look at all the
genteel 'stockholders' around you! The same applies to 'stockholders' in various
personal-bliss/salvation oriented religious 'traditions' which are
now '
behind the
times' in terms of holding themselves and their 'fellow' believers
socially and environmentally accountable, IMO.
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