Sufism

[002 Cents]

I have stumbled across Sufism and I'm interested in learning more about it. I can surf the web all day. But I wanted to get feedback from you guys.

[Floatsy]

I find the writings of Rumi, Hafiz and others to be very beautiful - and also resonant of All That Is.

:)

[Floatsy]

A lifetime without Love is of no account
Love is the Water of Life
Drink it down with heart and soul!

~ Rumi

[Floatsy]

Only

That Illumined
One

Who keeps
Seducing the formless into form

Had the charm to win my
Heart.

Only a Perfect One

Who is always
Laughing at the word
Two

Can make you know

Of

Love.

~ Hafiz

[Floatsy]

I know the way you can get
When you have not had a drink of Love:

Your face hardens,
Your sweet muscles cramp.
Children become concerned
About a strange look that appears in your eyes
Which even begins to worry your own mirror
And nose.

Squirrels and birds sense your sadness
And call an important conference in a tall tree.
They decide which secret code to chant
To help your mind and soul.

Even angels fear that brand of madness
That arrays itself against the world
And throws sharp stones and spears into
The innocent
And into one's self.

O I know the way you can get
If you have not been drinking Love:

You might rip apart
Every sentence your friends and teachers say,
Looking for hidden clauses.

You might weigh every word on a scale
Like a dead fish.

You might pull out a ruler to measure
From every angle in your darkness
The beautiful dimensions of a heart you once
Trusted.

I know the way you can get
If you have not had a drink from Love's
Hands.

That is why all the Great Ones speak of
The vital need
To keep remembering God,
So you will come to know and see Him
As being so Playful
And Wanting,
Just Wanting to help.

That is why Hafiz says:
Bring your cup near me.
For all I care about
Is quenching your thirst for freedom!

All a Sane man can ever care about
Is giving Love!

~ Hafiz

[002 Cents]

Thanks for sharing. I was curious though if it is recognized in the Islamic community as being Islam... or if it is sort of a spin off religious practice?

[Interuniversalism]

[quote=002 Cents]Thanks for sharing. I was curious though if it is recognized in the Islamic community as being Islam... or if it is sort of a spin off religious practice?[/QUOT
Sufism is a journey to reach God. God is within every one of us and everything around is a projection of God. It is an realization that our thoughts has to be put aside and we born a second time and into the vastness of the ocean within us. We have a mind self born with us and is programed through life but this is not the true self.

[Please Leave Me]

[quote=Interuniversalism]

Originally Posted by 002 Cents

Thanks for sharing. I was curious though if it is recognized in the Islamic community as being Islam... or if it is sort of a spin off religious practice?[/QUOT
Sufism is a journey to reach God. God is within every one of us and everything around is a projection of God. It is an realization that our thoughts has to be put aside and we born a second time and into the vastness of the ocean within us. We have a mind self born with us and is programed through life but this is not the true self.

till you become dimwit like famous sufis who started saying
i see God inside Dogs and Donkeys
instead of saying I see the work of God in those Animals

we dont have God inside us
if we did then we are Gods
but rather we have spirit of God inside which makes us alive
just because you use battery doesn't mean you own the factory
or you share anything with owner

this is why sufism is not for feeble minds
such as Rumi who in his poems ended up getting drunk with God
Sufism better Avoided if you are not level headed

[Floatsy]

Originally Posted by Shadow Of A Knight

till you become dimwit like famous sufis who started saying
i see God inside Dogs and Donkeys
instead of saying I see the work of God in those Animals

we dont have God inside us
if we did then we are Gods
but rather we have spirit of God inside which makes us alive
just because you use battery doesn't mean you own the factory
or you share anything with owner

this is why sufism is not for feeble minds
such as Rumi who in his poems ended up getting drunk with God
Sufism better Avoided if you are not level headed

Sounds like a fundamental misunderstanding of Sufism, and with anger too.

"Sufism better Avoided if you are not level headed"

It is the intellectual mind that seeks to control, be "level headed" and otherwise distinguish and categorize.

Rumi is a Lover and in all good Lovers, they drink from the Spirit of Truth.

What more beauty can you ask for?

That Mystic traditions are feared and in the minority is perhaps to be expected through the Ages.

It is said that even the Bible had all the Mysticism and Meditation stripped as it is easier to control people through systems of belief and dogma.

Fortunately, the proliferation of information on the internet, and schools which respect and encourage Silence and True Contemplation are still available for those with open hearts and minds.

Namaste and no offence intended.

[Please Leave Me]

Originally Posted by Floatsy

Sounds like a fundamental misunderstanding of Sufism, and with anger too.

"Sufism better Avoided if you are not level headed"

It is the intellectual mind that seeks to control, be "level headed" and otherwise distinguish and categorize.

Rumi is a Lover and in all good Lovers, they drink from the Spirit of Truth.

What more beauty can you ask for?

That Mystic traditions are feared and in the minority is perhaps to be expected through the Ages.

It is said that even the Bible had all the Mysticism and Meditation stripped as it is easier to control people through systems of belief and dogma.

Fortunately, the proliferation of information on the internet, and schools which respect and encourage Silence and True Contemplation are still available for those with open hearts and minds.

Namaste and no offence intended.

the reason am muslim
is not because fantasies beauty wishful thinking or endless love
am muslim due to logic truth and facts

Rumi to me was nothing more than foolish poet
yes be level headed least you end up following blindly
based on spirituality and wishful thinking
Mohammed was man of logic so did the Sahaba
who came after him and ruled
not one among them spitted nonsense Rumi said

i rather follow those people who maintained Islam strong foundation logically
than follow a raving poet illogically
i do understand sufism very well
which is exactly why i said be level headed or avoid it