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22-02-2022, 07:58 PM
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Is mediumship the actual liberation in Christianity?
I received the gift of mediumship from the Spirit lately, while meditating.
It came out of nowhere almost, to me the Buddhists / Yogic realizations make much more sense, but anyways, I was born and still live under a Christian tradition and culture.
I am grateful for that gift, although I still don't see any clear before / after, it's very progressive.
But anyways, would you agree with that statement?
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22-02-2022, 08:50 PM
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To me...... Mediumship is conversing with Spirit. I adapted that meaning because when I look at how Medium[ship] apparently was first used, that is what it meant. There are some groups that still hold that word to mean that.
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23-02-2022, 01:02 AM
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Hmm, G, do you mean the liberation from limiting Christian beliefs?
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23-02-2022, 08:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
Hmm, G, do you mean the liberation from limiting Christian beliefs?
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Yes, right, beyond beliefs.
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Originally Posted by BigJohn
To me...... Mediumship is conversing with Spirit.
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Conversing with Spirit is one aspect, but there is more to it.
And there is still the possibility to converse with the heart thinking it's Spirit.
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Originally Posted by bobjob
Mediumship is my specialty but I don't understand what you're asking.
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3-sentence quote please :)
Liberation is meant as liberation from suffering.
Liberation from beliefs is implicit, because those are a protection against suffering.
If you liberate yourself with beliefs ... well, it's not mediumship. EDIT: in my understanding
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23-02-2022, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Guillaume
Liberation is meant as liberation from suffering.
Liberation from beliefs is implicit, because those are a protection against suffering.
If you liberate yourself with beliefs ... well, it's not mediumship.
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You're not talking about mediumship either, sorry.
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23-02-2022, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Guillaume
Liberation is meant as liberation from suffering.
Liberation from beliefs is implicit, because those are a protection against suffering.
If you liberate yourself with beliefs ... well, it's not mediumship.
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3 sentence quotation as requested. I don't recognise any of what you've described as mediumship.
Contact or communication with spirit beings for your own benefit is no more than that and becomes mediumship only when it is used in the service of others. Service is the key.
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23-02-2022, 04:04 PM
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EXCERPT Contact or communication with spirit beings for your own benefit is no more than that and becomes mediumship only when it is used in the service of others. Service is the key.
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When the word Medium was apparently first used..... it had nothing to do with 'service of others'.
Those of us who use a different and possibly the original definition of what Medium was, should be allowed to use that definition. We all have our own opinions.
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23-02-2022, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by BigJohn
Those of us who use a different and possibly the original definition of what Medium was, should be allowed to use that definition. We all have our own opinions.
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Agreed, and native languages too! In French there is no differentiation between psychic and medium, all psychic people (even with just a few siddhis) would be considered "medium", and in common terms people would say "voyant" (clairvoyant, but literally someone who can see) for any of them.
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23-02-2022, 08:20 PM
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When the word medium was apparently first used..... it had nothing to do with 'service of others'.
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The meanings of many words change over the years, decades and centuries. There's little to be commended in using a word nowadays the way it USED to be used decades or more ago when things have demonstrably changed.
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07-04-2022, 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Guillaume
EXCERPT
Conversing with Spirit is one aspect, but there is more to it.
And there is still the possibility to converse with the heart thinking it's Spirit.
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When people think of Mediumship, it seems they are mostly talking of only one version of Modern Day Spiritualism. But if you look at Spiritualism before Modern Day Spiritualism began, that form of Spiritualism seemed to resonate very much with Animism. When you wrote about conversing with the heart thinking it is Spirit, that does seem to me to fit in nicely with Animism.
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