Does Lucid Dreaming make AP easier?

Is it easier to AP once you can Lucid Dream?

Should one master lucid dreaming first before trying to astral project?

[IsleWalker]

Everyone is different but many feel that lucid dreaming is just another aspect of projection. Both usually take some work.

Some of the lucid dreaming techniques involve concentrating on doors in your waking life so that when you dream and you see a door, you ask yourself "Am I awake or dreaming?"

There are lots of other ways too. Or it can just happen spontaneously as you attempt to project. Maybe you should decide what you really want to do. In the process of learning, you'll probably run across some lucid dreams and other states that have no name. It's all good.

Bon voyage!

Lora

[Astral Explorer]

Originally Posted by Freezicle

Is it easier to AP once you can Lucid Dream?

Should one master lucid dreaming first before trying to astral project?

To answer your question... Yes for most people it is going to help. What I have found is that the only real thing necessary to project is our consciousness has to be inside of one of our subtle bodies, typically the astral body. When we learn how to turn a dream lucid we are learning how to recognize the signs that our consciousness is no longer in our physical body and instead is inside a subtle body. And so those same lessons you learn and apply during lucid dreaming can be used during astral projection as well. A lot of times people are already in their astral body and they just don't know it. Since they do not know it they lay there wasting their time attempting to "leave their body" or bring about the vibrations, but in reality all they need to do is realize they are in their astral body and the projection has already began.

maybe learn AP first, then with it, i believe will come lucid dreaming far easier than it was.

[weinmanr]

Yes, it is much easier to project for the first time through a lucid dream.

I can only project through a lucid dream. When I realize I'm dreaming I only get a brief moment before I wake up. So lucid dreaming isn't something I've actually been able to do. I can't stay in the dream.

What lucid dreaming does for me for the brief moment before I wake up out of the dream is give me a moment to warn myself not to move, stay completely still, not to think of anything but feel myself rolling out of my body.

Without that brief moment of realization I probably wouldn't be able to AP either. The problem is when I don't realize I'm dreaming, when I don't go lucid, I wake up and automatically open my eyes. Kind of like a reflex, I do it without even realizing.

Lucid dreaming has helped me to astral project and I think by doing this the physical body is being tricked into thinking it's still asleep.